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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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Jimmy judge on the game-changer Network

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welcome baby fly the spoke radio for the

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masses yeah man here we go

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today's Wednesday October 17 2018

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293 days into the

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you're just 72 days left we are live

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from a bunker as always from a bunker in

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the middle of beautiful downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around

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all across the United States hither and

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thither - and throw back and forth up

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and down east and west north and south

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far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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planets I am your host Jimmy Church

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what is and everybody how you doing

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how you doing how you doing it's gonna

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be a great night tonight it's always

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great when Michael Lee Hill is on fade

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to black but tonight he's here to reveal

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the members of the secret a our Borden

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NS a group that's right right here I'm

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fade to black

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get ready we're gonna have everybody

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here tonight we're gonna have one two

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three four five members of the group a

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our Borden is no longer with us and of

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course Michael Lee he'll it was a member

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of that group so he is here so we have

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six of the seven will be on this show

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tonight how was that man it's gonna be

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great so there you go very special night

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tonight and get ready for everything

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we're gonna run this thing all the way

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up to ten o'clock there's no other way

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to do it when you have this many guests

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and there you go so that is tonight

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tomorrow night and fifth as if that

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wasn't big enough right last night

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Leal's egami right oh man an anomaly on

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Monday wow wow wow wow what an amazing

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week right here on fade to black but and

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tonight with this very special show that

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we've got lined up for you and then we

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wrap it all up tomorrow with Fator night

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yeah open lines all night long so get

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ready let's go now I've been hanging out

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while I do it

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all week long anyway but over it on

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stellar this week and going through you

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can go and sign up and

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it's your account going it's a social

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media platform right you can do

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everything over there that you can do

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anywhere else anything you can do

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anything you want to do right form

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groups make friends whenever is schedule

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events you can post you can write

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there's a word editor there you can edit

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you can PO it's just it's just an

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amazing amazing platform for built for

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our community so hanging out there all

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week this week and I did a post and your

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comments were just great

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I did a post from my rants about my

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version of the Big Bang and I'm just I'm

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just gonna say this I hate the different

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viewpoints when I bring up something

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like that right my version of the Big

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Bang and I bring it up and I posted

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there and to get these alternative takes

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on the universe and us and I'm reading

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through there and I'm like man I I agree

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with that I agree with that too I also

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agree with that completely going against

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what what I wrote and I found myself

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agreeing with everybody it's just so so

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bizarre anyway come and hang out with

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all of us over at on stellar the

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knowledge is just great who posted this

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that's uh is that the Breakfast Club

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that's the Breakfast Club who posted

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that that is awesome that is awesome

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okay let's see where I'm at Twitter is

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at JT Radio Twitter is at

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teacher-training

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Facebook you know what to do there and

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of course YouTube by the way YouTube

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went down last night yes it did and

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still maybe you've heard something not

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much out there today about what the

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cause was and it seems that Google and

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Facebook or you know being a little

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tight-lipped about it but it went down

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it went down on the East Coast in the

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United States West Coast some central

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states like here and in Southern

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California and up and down the west

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coast it was we had that team of monkeys

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a warning pop-up and some states some

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countries had the YouTube page but you

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couldn't play any videos so everything

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else lit up right Facebook lit up

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Twitter lit up people needed needed to

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get their fix on they're cooked through

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they had to click on videos somewhere

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but Facebook went down went down went

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down just about everywhere for about an

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hour and it was it was across Europe

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right China Japan China Japan Australia

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yeah New Zealand it went down don't know

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it feels a hacker or what but it went

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down it definitely went down yeah it's

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back today though mess with numbers too

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as well he messed with numbers I saw

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that and anyway let's go let's get the

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show crackin follow me on twitter at a

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the sandbox and of course hashtag f2b

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Q is fade to black questions it's going

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to be a very busy packed show tonight so

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get ready for all of it

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you can also email me Jimmy and Jimmy

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Church radio.com speaking of Facebook

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got some pretty massive breaking news

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here Facebook shareholders have signed a

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proposal to replace Zuckerberg as

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chairman that's right

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Facebook's board will vote early next

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year on a proposal to create an

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independent chairman thus removing Mark

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Zuckerberg from the position this is

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really really big news now there's a

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little bit of a back story the back

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story is this has been done before this

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is not a with Facebook with the

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shareholders trying to remove Zuk

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this isn't the first time it's happened

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before but this is different there it's

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a different climate there's things going

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on now and there's a lot of a lot of

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issues that have been raised not only

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with privacy but other things and and

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censorship and of course 800 pages were

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removed this week of right and left wing

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media and down the center too as well so

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there's that there's a lot going on that

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we had the Facebook hack and it turns

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out it wasn't technically a hack it's

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just weird

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weird things Google Plus which is out

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there doesn't affect Facebook but all of

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these things with with data and hacking

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are all coming at the same time and so

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maybe these the shareholders are looking

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for a new leadership there it's kind of

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it's sad in a way if you're Zuckerberg

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because this has been your baby since

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the beginning but maybe it's time to

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move on just go somewhere and spend that

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money you know go feed some feed some

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people in Africa go build some schools

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do something with your life

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but there you go the voting will happen

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with the board right around the first of

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the year yep that's what we got to get

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through you got to get through that

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first of the year thing with any

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board comes back from vacation right

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Ronnie McMullen in here tonight and he

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hasn't popped in normally he is here

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Ronnie if you're listening where are you

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men waiting if al ronnie pops in we will

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get him in here let's get this show

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crackin happy birthday to today Eminem

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is 46 years old

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Ziggy Marley is 50 and our dead guys

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birthday today is Evel Knievel 1938 2007

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died at the age of 69 evil attempted

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more than 75 ramp to ramp motorcycle

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jumps in 1974 he failed and an attempted

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canyon jump across the Snake River

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Canyon in his sky cycle x2 steam-powered

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rocket and I actually listened to that

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live on an AM radio there's Ronnie

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there's Ronnie right there I was just

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calling out for you man how you doing

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I'm doing good how are you doing man I

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was getting worried I was like where's

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Ronnie I it's what is that playing in

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the background is that me or you hold on

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for a second is that me or you I think

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it's you okay it's gone it's gone add

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something funky playing in the

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background

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how you doing Ronnie what's cracking I'm

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doing good how are you doing Jimmy you

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know life is wonderful we've had just

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the most amazing week here I know that

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you just got back from Scotland and I'm

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fully jealous about that but I'm sure

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that your batteries are recharged and

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and you're ready to go how was your trip

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it was great it was really great

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I tell you that the Scots have got it

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going on so you know I went back to kind

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of trace old roots and the McMullin

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pretty much got kicked out and they're

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in Ireland in England now so you know

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that just Scottish the Scottish people

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are just wonderful

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yeah had a great time I'm just picturing

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Highlander you know and and the McMullen

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clan it's funny we were a clan that's

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what we were and yeah I guess we're in

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Ireland now and I I could either be a

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construction worker in Ireland because

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there's a big McMullen construction

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company or I can be worked for a pub in

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England because there's a big McMullen

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pub so we'll see you know maybe I'll get

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to go to Ireland another year now what

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does McMullen mean you know I mean I

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mean did your family Mullins

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did you guys mick Mullins I mean what

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what is we actually came from Mac millon

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Manon Mac mill and ma si mi L LAN I

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think it is and we were like protectors

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Claire back in the clan days Wray so we

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were protectors and had the double

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swords and that's kind of what we did

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and you know honor respect I mean all

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that kind of stuff at least that's what

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the coat of arms says and I like what it

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says so I'm gonna go with it I wanted to

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ask you Ronny you were you were in radio

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and you had a show that dealt with UFOs

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and conspiracies for a number of years

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yes and when you were doing that show

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when did the show end what year I want

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to say 14 for UFO encounters

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okay 2014 and how long were you on the

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air four years four or five years with

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with just UFO encounters yeah okay so

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that okay so you started it in around

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2009 yeah something like that

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okay so back then I'm just trying to

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think so that's ten years ago were you

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covering did you have guests were you

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guys covering things like the secret

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space program

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and and what was going on with that and

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the possibility of maybe a breakaway

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civilization or basis on on the Moon and

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Mars and and there were there were bases

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on the moon we were just scratching for

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me anyway we're just scratching the

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surface of talking about Mars and

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obviously there was a kernel involved

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and had him on the show and he denied

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everything and I had some other people

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that were on the show saying that you

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know they were slated to go to Mars and

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you know of course I guess why and

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because basically the Earth's gonna be

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toast and the elite will be sitting in

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Mars and the air in the water everything

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is great in Mars it's totally like Earth

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right so I just thought wow that was

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interesting but most of the stuff not

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most III delved into a lot of things

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like New World Order and MKULTRA and all

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that kind of stuff but I also went kind

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of in a direction that was made my show

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a little more different was the fact I

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would deal with abductees and I didn't

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get the normal book writers and all that

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kind of abductees actually there's like

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a little connection that they have where

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they help each other because no one

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really knows what they've gone through

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and sometimes talk-show hosts

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rip them up like I you're fake and this

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kind of thing and so they just get to

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where they don't even want to come on

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air and and most of them wouldn't come

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on area I it was two or three that

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trusted me to go on air and so it was um

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and that was really what I was

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interested in because I want to know why

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these people are being abducted what was

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the purpose of it and that was kind of

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where I scouted and when you and you

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write about that because when you

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interview somebody that is courageous

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enough to one it's one or the other

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right

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they're courageous enough to come on and

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tell their story and their experience or

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their courageous enough to come on and

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see how far they can be as the audience

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right either way it's your Aegis well

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it's kind of like the female that's been

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raped right right

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you know she's she's bold to go say

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something and she's you know and it's

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not something you're really proud of

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going out there and telling everything

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about and I always used to say this on

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air I'd say okay so if you have a female

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that's been raped brutally raped how

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would that be the interview that person

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right now a man do it couldn't do it

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couldn't imagine right interviewing

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somebody that's been raped by something

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not of this world right right right

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right yes I mean it's like times 10 yeah

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I know

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understand that and a lot of people did

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and you know and I you know maybe I was

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bamboozled once I don't think so

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and then you know then I put the pieces

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together of like okay I talked to seven

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abductees what are the traits of every

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abduction and there's similarities and

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that's the stuff I like to do I like you

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know that was that was always kind of

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fun for me and many people that weren't

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being interviewed by others was always

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kind of fun to that because or getting

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in interviewing somebody that's been

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interviewed a thousand times and asking

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totally opposite questions well in it

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and so once once you get the reputation

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of of listening of being a listener and

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asking the right questions as opposed to

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being a debunker or trying to pin

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somebody in the corner or trying to k if

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you have that kind of reputation

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nobody's gonna come on the show nobody's

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gonna you know it's difficult enough for

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them to come forward

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you know it's and and if they if they

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don't get an opportunity to tell their

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story and their experience as they

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believe it or the opportunity to tell

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their BS right right all they want to do

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if it's a big lie they want to be able

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to get to the end of the lie and let the

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audience be the judge and the audience

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is either gonna go oh man funny because

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I'd have a guest on and that guess would

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be full of you know what right and you

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know who knew it the listeners the

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listeners oh my god get this guy off all

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our time right

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right right which is exulting that's it

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that is the cool thing it's a cool part

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of it I should say yes been one with

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your listeners is I think a spot on it's

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really cool and I notice you know and

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I've watched this since the years I've

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been on with you you're very close with

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your listeners and they're very close

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with you I mean when I was at though

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whatever we went to January a year ago

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whatever right people come up and go oh

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yeah you know Jimmy Church is great

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about an and B one after another after

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another after another

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pretty soon as like Jimmy Church isn't

422
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gonna live anymore I can't hear his name

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anymore no I felt so bad for a you know

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and and and I hear you there you know be

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careful what you wish no no it was being

426
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talked about a lot yeah just be careful

427
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you know be careful what you wish for

428
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that's all I gotta say when it comes to

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that it's you are a celeb dude just

430
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honor just to shake your hand you're the

431
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famous one so now let's let's let's talk

432
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if you don't mind I want to change gears

433
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a little bit I want to talk about the

434
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CBD and now the reason why I want to do

435
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it is right now I think today today is

436
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is bigger than yesterday for CBD

437
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tomorrow is going to be an even bigger

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day everybody's talking about it now

439
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we're you know Canadian companies and in

440
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drinks and this we're gonna do this with

441
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its Goods we're you know it is now going

442
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mainstream because everybody understands

443
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it's got tremendous benefits and it

444
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actually works but let me just let me

445
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say this I take it every day I take it

446
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every day I now I take I take the

447
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cinnamon version and I take the the NAT

448
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our natural version and I have gotten so

449
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my brain has gotten to the point where

450
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it knows that it's going to be the

451
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body's about to be corrected a little

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bit more get it back into alignment

453
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and and I'd love there's something

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that's going on here right it's like

455
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when you see VD is for chemistry it is

456
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okay it's straight so a lot of people

457
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have chemical imbalances out there okay

458
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so they're a little bit over here and

459
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this is why you're gonna be agitated

460
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angry anxious depressed you know a

461
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thousand different things okay

462
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chemical imbalance and we we you know if

463
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somebody gets mad you're having fights

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with your wife or your husband all the

465
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time you might want to be looking

466
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something deeper than just you're mad at

467
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your husband or your wife you might want

468
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to be looking at something's wrong with

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my chemical notes well this is the

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wonderful the the three-letter oil is

471
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the way to go right and I tell you and

472
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that's not even counting you know things

473
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like inflammation if you you know and

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inflammation think about this when you

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have in stress and do we all have stress

476
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you know we don't make our time zones we

477
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can't control the situation we get

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stressed

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that's CBD oh what it does for stress is

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like over the top and I know this for

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obviously I take it you take it Jimmy

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but also the fact that a lot of people

483
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have emailed me and oh my gosh this this

484
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works this really works and yours is the

485
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best and and I love every email I get

486
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like that because ours is you know and

487
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it's hard to find I mean they're they

488
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are out there but other companies they

489
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don't go GMO free and they don't go

490
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organic right and mine is and and plus I

491
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have a mix of oils in there so it's fast

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absorption you know and I'm not trying

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to say on the best but I'm kind of the

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Ferrari of the world you know what I

495
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mean so and I try to keep it in the

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Chevrolet pricing but yeah it's great

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and I you know I talk so much about it

498
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because I love it I mean it's like I

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can't imagine a world without CBD I

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talked to so many of my friends inside

501
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and outside of the industry everybody

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I'll just drop the bomb on them you know

503
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just I just want to know so do you do

504
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CBD every day every day and I've gotten

505
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this from people that I would never

506
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expect you know now somebody just

507
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tweeted that there are taking a 250 CBD

508
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right now that they've gotten from you

509
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yes

510
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can they go up into

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without any problems I know the answer

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to that but I want to hear from you

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Ronnie no you tell it you tell the

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answer and I'll say if you're right I

515
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went to fifty to five hundred I'm doing

516
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a thousand now let's say you're on a

517
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thousand and you feel in your body in

518
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your intuition whatever you want to call

519
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it that it's too much then you just take

520
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less of a dropper right it's real simple

521
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or you take one drop or a day or half a

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dropper a day or third of a dropper

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right so you I feel if you buy a

524
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thousand milligram you kind of get more

525
00:24:58,980 --> 00:24:56,170
mileage yeah you do because you can take

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a half a dropper I'd that's what I do

527
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Ronnie I take mine right before I go to

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bed it's on my nightstand I do I do I

529
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take it right before I go to bed and

530
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it's really good

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well it it's great for dreams you know I

532
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don't there's no drugs involved here

533
00:25:22,140 --> 00:25:18,910
right but no the safe C is zero zero

534
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three zero zero three there's no getting

535
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high and people ask me well what if you

536
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:27,700
drank the whole bottle I go dude you're

537
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relax the whole bottle you're not gonna

538
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be high and get in the car and drive

539
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down and you're good to go yeah yeah

540
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yeah that good I take it right before

541
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bed it's what works for me I take a full

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dropper and but also it sits staring at

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me on my nightstand right so I sit down

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you know and I look and there it is and

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I'm reminded you know and boom so that's

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that's what I do well and I think it's

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important to realize you know and I've

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had many emails say this you know we've

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had other CBD oils and we've tried them

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none of them work like yours and you

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know I I take great value in that kind

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of email and I don't think people are

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gonna email me that just to kiss my rear

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end I think they're telling the truth

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and I've noticed I've taken other CBD

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oils and I would agree with that but

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then that sounds like you're patting

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yourself on the back so I always look

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for whether it doesn't matter what

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product I'm getting out there I always

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look what are the people saying what are

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they feeling because it doesn't matter

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what I say

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I do my work to get the right stuff in

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the right bottles and so on so forth but

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what are the people say and when I get

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emails like thank god you've done this

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blah blah blah you know I just I I

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cherish those I mean and I don't get a

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million of them or anything like that

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but you get enough of them to know

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you're on the right track I I can't I

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can't speak enough about how how I feel

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you know and I have been able to and I

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know I mentioned this a lot but it it

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needs to be repeated which is I abused

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my body for years years for 50 years 50

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years until you came along running and

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and I have over at the house in the

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garage I literally have a bag a garbage

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bag full of supplements from different

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sponsors and people that have mailed me

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stuff in different trade shows and

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things that have come in the mail and

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and all of that and and I try it just it

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none of it worked and as soon as I got

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on my little program that I do with life

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change T which is of course started with

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the T that was first and then we did

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colostrum in the T that was our next

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combination in which we still do and

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then it was pine bark and it's olive

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leaf and Moringa and vitamin C drops and

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of course the CBD and you know it's four

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or five bottles right in a row tincture

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and and I feel great and I've never I've

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never felt like this before and well and

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I think it's important to know that a

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talk show host because I am one a talk

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show host has to be square you can't

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have a cold because then you go oh you

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know so it's really important and I it's

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funny because I listen to some of the

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mainstreamers and they'll get on cold

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and I'm like you know you're toting all

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that product how come you're not feeling

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better that's right that's right that's

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right and I can't work I know I know and

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I can say that I have been on this

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program now of yours for two years and I

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everybody has noted the change everybody

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has as as seen what I've gone through

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and and my diet hasn't really changed

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that much no cuz you're always gonna eat

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those greasy burgers I don't love them

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that's a part of Jimmy Church I know I

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know man you know is you can't change

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that and you know what I mean I had to

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or I'd be right there right beside you

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and I haven't I haven't been to in and

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out now for man like two months can you

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believe it I crave I crave in and out

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but I crave Bob's yeah Bob's is good you

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know about that's right over the top

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yeah Tommy's Tommy's

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chili burgers oh I got to get out of

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here Ronnie and and I'm gonna send

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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your host Jimmy church tonight Michael

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Lee Hill is here tomorrow night is Fator

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night open lines all night long we've

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got five guests coming on tonight and

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the secret space program has been

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referenced by many many times over the

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years going back literally decades and

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one of the more famous examples is Peter

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Levin does excel in presentation in

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Amsterdam back in 2011 which connected

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the dots from 1947 through the Kennedy

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assassination and beyond and over the

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last 10 years researchers from every

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side of the community have been writing

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speaking and making documentaries about

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the secret space program Richard Dolan

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00:36:13,180 --> 00:36:11,270
has published some of the most

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compelling material on the subject and

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with it is the possibility of a

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breakaway civilization and before that

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we even had project sir Poe and

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throughout the 90s the term secret space

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program or SSP really picked up steam

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and for me it wasn't just that there was

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such a program or many of them it was

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that so many authors and researchers

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were mentioning it different versions of

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it a wide group of researchers that

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quite frankly didn't know each other

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some were fringe some were mainstream

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some were from the military some were

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civilian and that was key for me to

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realize and come to the conclusion that

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something was going on and sure today

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you can find the secret suppose the

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space of the secret space program in

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hundreds if not thousands of videos and

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books and blogs and websites and it's

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great but when you really study the

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subject like I have for the last 30 or

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40 years you can see the trends and

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connect the dots but it's when somebody

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comes along like Michael Lee Hill that I

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really sit up and take notice why his

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00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:22,760
information and experiences are like

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nothing I've ever heard before

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and trust me I've heard it all or at

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least I thought that I did he has

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brought forward names documentation

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dates places gatherings very specific

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things that quite frankly know but

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00:37:47,010 --> 00:37:42,000
has ever done not to my knowledge and

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one of those names was AR Borden and his

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secret meta group allegedly part of the

786
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NSA bold claims for sure but Michael is

787
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naming names and he said to me once that

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he would introduce me to everyone well

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tonight we're gonna do that

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Michael is delivering on that promise so

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we have five people from the seeker

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group here tonight I'm fade to black and

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in classic fade to black fashion this is

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live and I will meet everyone for the

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first time right along with all of you

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and by the end of the broadcast

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hopefully we'll have some of the answers

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to the questions that we seek that's

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right because Michael Lee Hill is here

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to reveal those members of that secret

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AR Borden team I would like to welcome

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back to fade to black Michael Lee Hill

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Michael good evening my friend how are

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you I'm doing fantastic how you doing

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Jimmy 4:32 brother 4:30 to tell you

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something great about that because of

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00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:48,910
Richard Hoagland contacting me he's now

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got NASA looking into my 432 ancient

809
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:55,180
Anunnaki technology which is you know

810
00:38:59,700 --> 00:38:57,520
the 432 which may has been made into a

811
00:39:02,160 --> 00:38:59,710
cymatic image by some scientists and

812
00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:02,170
it's embedded in quartz crystal so

813
00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:04,420
that's happening right now man I'm so

814
00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:05,020
excited

815
00:39:12,090 --> 00:39:07,990
Richard Hoagland you know Richard back

816
00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:12,100
in the 90s with those classic shows that

817
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:15,100
he did with art bell kept us all up for

818
00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:18,250
months at a time and the Internet had

819
00:39:25,020 --> 00:39:20,940
just started right so Hoagland had his

820
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:25,030
pictures posting up on coast to coast am

821
00:39:30,270 --> 00:39:27,910
and you know which was this abbas all

822
00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:30,280
new stuff to have images on the internet

823
00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:32,260
right and you're waiting for it to you

824
00:39:38,490 --> 00:39:35,590
know the screen to slowly you know

825
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:38,500
opposed to pitied right and

826
00:39:43,350 --> 00:39:40,810
you know the face on Mars and the

827
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:43,360
pyramids and the math and what was it

828
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:46,000
nineteen point what degrees what was his

829
00:39:51,810 --> 00:39:48,310
thank you point five nineteen point five

830
00:39:55,380 --> 00:39:51,820
degrees the Hoagland stuff and you know

831
00:39:57,420 --> 00:39:55,390
I haven't he was instrumental for so

832
00:40:00,570 --> 00:39:57,430
many of us to start this research and

833
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:00,580
and going and you know figure things out

834
00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:03,310
how's he do I haven't heard his name and

835
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:06,190
in since he left coast-to-coast it's

836
00:40:10,650 --> 00:40:08,590
been a few you know what he's fantastic

837
00:40:13,650 --> 00:40:10,660
and I feel exactly how you do I'm like a

838
00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:13,660
geek like I'm getting starstruck even

839
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:16,270
talking to him but um you know what I

840
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:18,400
learned from him and this is all gonna

841
00:40:23,550 --> 00:40:21,040
be very prominent in the very near

842
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:23,560
future is he told me Michael I know your

843
00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:25,510
stories sound kind of crazy but the fact

844
00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:27,640
of the matter is that NASA has been

845
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:29,620
looking into hyper dimensional physics

846
00:40:35,130 --> 00:40:32,530
for a long time and he said what they're

847
00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:35,140
finding out is all the keys to how

848
00:40:40,260 --> 00:40:37,270
energy works multi-dimensionally is

849
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:40,270
already encoded into the processional

850
00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:43,570
son Michael and he said it's all

851
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:46,030
regarding 432 base numbers that I've

852
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:48,370
been bringing to the table fascinating I

853
00:40:52,310 --> 00:40:50,110
you know it's been great talking to him

854
00:40:55,230 --> 00:40:52,320
on this kind of level of you know

855
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:55,240
exchanging ideas and stuff and he's the

856
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:58,050
one that hooked me up with some bio of

857
00:41:02,280 --> 00:40:59,920
biophysicist from NASA and they're

858
00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:02,290
looking into it so can you imagine if

859
00:41:07,050 --> 00:41:04,030
they find out that just the image alone

860
00:41:08,910 --> 00:41:07,060
the 432 carries so much information that

861
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:08,920
it's affecting the earth subtle energy

862
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:10,510
fields that's what they're looking into

863
00:41:17,790 --> 00:41:13,810
yeah I've you know I've got my guitar

864
00:41:22,530 --> 00:41:17,800
collection here and I've started to I've

865
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:22,540
got one guitar a strat a strat tuned to

866
00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:27,310
432 and I'm just now getting my feet wet

867
00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:30,790
with it will I swing them all down I'm

868
00:41:35,340 --> 00:41:33,400
looking around a you know at this these

869
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:35,350
beautiful instruments hanging on the

870
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:38,170
walls they all gonna be 432 well see

871
00:41:43,830 --> 00:41:41,200
also also we've got a lot to talk about

872
00:41:49,010 --> 00:41:43,840
tonight but I can't help but talk guitar

873
00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:49,020
with you okay so now what do we do with

874
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:51,960
with a van Halen drop tuning right

875
00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:56,070
because half of my guitars are set up

876
00:42:01,000 --> 00:41:58,980
for Van Halen right they have now that's

877
00:42:03,770 --> 00:42:01,010
a half step down Jimmy that takes you to

878
00:42:07,070 --> 00:42:03,780
418 Hertz right it's not it's way better

879
00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:07,080
than 440 but the magic numbers 432 so

880
00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:09,960
that means that that means I can't play

881
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,230
actually you know it's interesting

882
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:20,640
because all the musicians that have

883
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:23,040
created timeless music adopted that half

884
00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:26,250
step down tuning and I don't think it's

885
00:42:31,490 --> 00:42:30,030
coincidental but 432 is the key and dude

886
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:31,500
you're not gonna have a choice once you

887
00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:33,450
start playing that guitar that's tuned

888
00:42:37,609 --> 00:42:35,460
to 432 and you feel how long how much

889
00:42:39,050 --> 00:42:37,619
more resonant it is and how you actually

890
00:42:41,210 --> 00:42:39,060
feel it more it's like there's an

891
00:42:42,770 --> 00:42:41,220
intensity knob that's been just cranked

892
00:42:44,359 --> 00:42:42,780
you're gonna go to your other guitars

893
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:44,369
tune in for 40 and they're gonna be

894
00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:49,410
lifeless a natural progression yeah yeah

895
00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:51,510
I hear you and and some of those Black

896
00:42:59,570 --> 00:42:56,520
Sabbath records you go and each song is

897
00:43:02,180 --> 00:42:59,580
slightly off right you can't play the

898
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:02,190
same tune II got a tuna you know you got

899
00:43:07,790 --> 00:43:05,730
a retune in between songs I'm wondering

900
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:07,800
if some of those magical things like

901
00:43:14,089 --> 00:43:12,050
fairies wear boots is is in 432 by

902
00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:14,099
accident I know I know

903
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:16,140
all right let's let's jump into it we

904
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:18,089
got a lot to do before the top of the

905
00:43:26,540 --> 00:43:20,609
hour let's get straight to the meat of

906
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:26,550
the matter who is a our Borden well he

907
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:30,210
became like a father figure to me what

908
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:33,690
had happened was back in like 2005 to

909
00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:35,849
2008 I started seeing these orbs of

910
00:43:44,210 --> 00:43:39,839
light out over Lake Erie and I acquired

911
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:44,220
such a library of footage and some of it

912
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:46,740
went viral that brought the History

913
00:43:50,030 --> 00:43:48,330
Channel to my door and what's very

914
00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:50,040
interesting with all this is you know

915
00:43:55,390 --> 00:43:53,310
the host of the History Channel UFO

916
00:43:59,210 --> 00:43:55,400
Hunters bill birnes

917
00:44:01,390 --> 00:43:59,220
bill are friends yeah um in that episode

918
00:44:04,570 --> 00:44:01,400
it's called alien contact

919
00:44:06,190 --> 00:44:04,580
and it's an episode one you'll he says

920
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:06,200
in there I believe you guys are being

921
00:44:10,750 --> 00:44:08,570
contacted by a secret behind the scenes

922
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:10,760
group that's giving you a course in

923
00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:13,730
course of study and preparing you to

924
00:44:18,580 --> 00:44:16,310
meet your extraterrestrial or higher

925
00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:18,590
selves he says it right in the show it's

926
00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:21,830
like I'm but dude that this is 2008 I

927
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:23,150
didn't met the hanan hockey guy I

928
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:24,800
thought like what's this guy talking

929
00:44:31,930 --> 00:44:28,910
about you know but sure enough

930
00:44:33,940 --> 00:44:31,940
everything he said had has come to pass

931
00:44:36,130 --> 00:44:33,950
after this I even asked a airport I said

932
00:44:38,890 --> 00:44:36,140
who the heck is Bill burns if he knew

933
00:44:43,420 --> 00:44:38,900
this he said well he's a cognizant he is

934
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:43,430
a seer but anyhow so during this this

935
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:45,710
show that bill burns predicts exactly

936
00:44:51,850 --> 00:44:48,770
that I'm gonna be contacted by a our

937
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:51,860
board and somehow right after the show

938
00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:54,170
is when I actually meet the Anunnaki and

939
00:44:58,210 --> 00:44:55,670
they told me we want to talk about this

940
00:45:00,340 --> 00:44:58,220
unknown blood anomaly that was revealed

941
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:00,350
on the History Channel it was by a

942
00:45:05,260 --> 00:45:02,570
Harvard professor his name was David

943
00:45:07,210 --> 00:45:05,270
Systrom um they said that it's truly an

944
00:45:09,940 --> 00:45:07,220
indicator of the Nephilim bloodline the

945
00:45:12,850 --> 00:45:09,950
hybrid bloodline that you know he had on

946
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:12,860
the planet for a very long time and that

947
00:45:18,430 --> 00:45:15,890
this blood anomaly blood anomaly that

948
00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:18,440
they found is an indicator that your of

949
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:20,390
our bloodline well do it at this time

950
00:45:25,810 --> 00:45:21,890
there was no ancient aliens or no

951
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:25,820
nothing um while simultaneously I had

952
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:27,860
become almost obsessed with this

953
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:29,930
WingMakers site it's called WingMakers

954
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:32,930
calm and I read the dr. Neruda

955
00:45:40,090 --> 00:45:36,770
interviews and became fascinated by it

956
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:40,100
because I'm a geek like that like any

957
00:45:43,180 --> 00:45:41,510
time a name was given I'd go and

958
00:45:45,970 --> 00:45:43,190
research it and sure enough it's real

959
00:45:47,950 --> 00:45:45,980
and then I'd come to like it is there

960
00:45:50,620 --> 00:45:47,960
any technology from this group that

961
00:45:53,290 --> 00:45:50,630
could be tracked back and they gave one

962
00:45:55,390 --> 00:45:53,300
example and it was to make fighter jets

963
00:45:58,650 --> 00:45:55,400
in Russia that used this alien

964
00:46:03,910 --> 00:45:58,660
extraterrestrial reverse technology to

965
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:03,920
in their radar targeting systems in MIG

966
00:46:09,250 --> 00:46:06,110
fighter jets so I look and I find the

967
00:46:11,350 --> 00:46:09,260
actual company that had the I in the

968
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:11,360
blog release that I sent you I actually

969
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:14,170
have a patent from them

970
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:17,440
for this technology that went back there

971
00:46:23,310 --> 00:46:19,450
so my point is everything I looked into

972
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:23,320
was much more real than people I guess

973
00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:25,510
for giving it credit for but because of

974
00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:28,420
this I came across their study of a

975
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:31,030
subject called lerm which is light

976
00:46:37,650 --> 00:46:34,570
encoded reality matrix and what had

977
00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:37,660
happened was some back in the late like

978
00:46:46,290 --> 00:46:43,720
2009 some information was leaked onto

979
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:46,300
the web regarding lerm and it came from

980
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:48,970
AR Borden and I recognized it

981
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:51,490
immediately as this alarm subject from

982
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:53,920
the WingMakers but there was no

983
00:46:56,940 --> 00:46:55,510
connection ever made between these two

984
00:46:59,970 --> 00:46:56,950
groups I'm like wait a minute you know

985
00:47:01,860 --> 00:46:59,980
so I went to AR and I said listen I

986
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:01,870
don't know what's going on but I'm being

987
00:47:07,230 --> 00:47:04,330
led to talk to you and I would like a

988
00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:07,240
copy of this latest information but

989
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:10,150
let's stay right there for a second how

990
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:13,810
what was a our Borden doing at that time

991
00:47:20,940 --> 00:47:17,650
how are you able to contact him it was

992
00:47:25,050 --> 00:47:20,950
because he is the head of an NSA

993
00:47:29,550 --> 00:47:25,060
organization called the ACC a CIO alien

994
00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:29,560
contact interface organization and they

995
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:32,830
have a public front that is a master's

996
00:47:38,310 --> 00:47:34,890
program called the life physics group

997
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:38,320
California or the LPG C well this

998
00:47:44,970 --> 00:47:41,520
information came through the LPG sea

999
00:47:47,310 --> 00:47:44,980
that's why I recognized it so I just I

1000
00:47:49,710 --> 00:47:47,320
contacted him said I would like the most

1001
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:49,720
current versions of this please I've

1002
00:47:57,180 --> 00:47:52,480
been led to you by the WingMakers and

1003
00:47:59,550 --> 00:47:57,190
next thing I knew I got a another person

1004
00:48:01,680 --> 00:47:59,560
from their group said listen hey ours

1005
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:01,690
told us to contact you and tell you you

1006
00:48:05,970 --> 00:48:03,850
know it's that whole parable of you

1007
00:48:07,770 --> 00:48:05,980
could give a man a fish he'll eat for a

1008
00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:07,780
day but teach him how to fish you know

1009
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:10,630
eat for a lifetime kind deal they said

1010
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:12,240
we want to give you a course of study

1011
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:15,250
exactly what Bill Burns predicted it was

1012
00:48:21,540 --> 00:48:18,970
all what they call LPG is life physics

1013
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:21,550
group or new life physics this is the

1014
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:24,850
true science that quantum physicists are

1015
00:48:30,970 --> 00:48:27,290
now coming to

1016
00:48:33,970 --> 00:48:30,980
of how light and sound create physical

1017
00:48:36,820 --> 00:48:33,980
reality truly and it all revolving

1018
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:36,830
around 432 like Richard Hoagland said

1019
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:40,130
without finding out mind-blowing stuff

1020
00:48:47,590 --> 00:48:44,330
but that's how I was introduced a are

1021
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:47,600
and at first I had no access to AR he's

1022
00:48:53,590 --> 00:48:49,810
really head up high up in those

1023
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:53,600
organizations because the a CIO had even

1024
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:55,910
a more secretive division as he put it

1025
00:49:01,080 --> 00:48:58,160
to me the a CIO is where the research

1026
00:49:04,330 --> 00:49:01,090
and development for reverse engineering

1027
00:49:06,310 --> 00:49:04,340
was happening the labyrinth group was

1028
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:06,320
where it was more hands-on and there was

1029
00:49:10,570 --> 00:49:09,290
actual extraterrestrials on the Annunaki

1030
00:49:13,590 --> 00:49:10,580
had a council that worked with the

1031
00:49:16,660 --> 00:49:13,600
labyrinth group called the core team and

1032
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:16,670
so where the real deal was happening was

1033
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:20,090
within the labyrinth group so at first I

1034
00:49:28,750 --> 00:49:25,490
had a person who was like my guide and I

1035
00:49:30,940 --> 00:49:28,760
talked with him mostly and if something

1036
00:49:35,830 --> 00:49:30,950
needed to get to AR it would get to him

1037
00:49:37,690 --> 00:49:35,840
but this isn't 2008 oh okay hold on I

1038
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:37,700
need to jump in I want to get all of

1039
00:49:47,890 --> 00:49:40,160
this in before we get to the top of the

1040
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:47,900
hour here which is that AR the the

1041
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:51,170
secret space program and the beta team

1042
00:49:59,140 --> 00:49:55,490
was brought up at the 2011 Lync

1043
00:50:02,160 --> 00:49:59,150
conference yes so tell us about that and

1044
00:50:06,060 --> 00:50:02,170
what is the link conference it's a

1045
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:06,070
multiracial meaning extraterrestrial

1046
00:50:11,020 --> 00:50:07,970
conference aboard and Anunnaki

1047
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:11,030
mothership where many different races

1048
00:50:17,290 --> 00:50:15,110
get together to discuss timely pertinent

1049
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:17,300
issues that need to be discussed about

1050
00:50:24,190 --> 00:50:19,370
what they're seeing in the near future

1051
00:50:26,290 --> 00:50:24,200
for mankind so in that 2011 linkage

1052
00:50:28,570 --> 00:50:26,300
Institute briefing which was funny

1053
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:28,580
because right after that happened AR got

1054
00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:30,530
me those minutes he said you know I

1055
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:32,230
don't want this going out on the net yet

1056
00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:35,930
but I want you to know what's going on

1057
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:39,470
because that is exactly what the team

1058
00:50:44,090 --> 00:50:40,890
was formed in 20

1059
00:50:46,670 --> 00:50:44,100
twelve to address and you know just down

1060
00:50:49,850 --> 00:50:46,680
the bucket list the first one was Nibiru

1061
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:49,860
was coming in on a doomsday transit and

1062
00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:53,850
what could be done and then that was the

1063
00:50:57,890 --> 00:50:55,830
main gist of it but then once we got

1064
00:51:01,730 --> 00:50:57,900
rolling a couple things happened and

1065
00:51:04,190 --> 00:51:01,740
that was hurricane sandy and earthquakes

1066
00:51:06,260 --> 00:51:04,200
Charlotte and some Solar Flare activity

1067
00:51:08,330 --> 00:51:06,270
and they said what people didn't know is

1068
00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:08,340
simultaneously that there was this

1069
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:10,680
galactic super wave heading towards us

1070
00:51:15,410 --> 00:51:13,680
and NASA really said info as well that

1071
00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:15,420
they found these huge bursts of gamma

1072
00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:18,540
rays that had be expelled from the

1073
00:51:23,870 --> 00:51:21,630
middle of our Milky Way galaxy they said

1074
00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:23,880
every galaxy does it people say

1075
00:51:29,450 --> 00:51:25,830
something can't leave a black hole but

1076
00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:29,460
this is really a wave of high gamma-ray

1077
00:51:36,350 --> 00:51:32,760
light and it was arriving in December of

1078
00:51:39,020 --> 00:51:36,360
2012 so it was how to address all these

1079
00:51:45,590 --> 00:51:39,030
things and it entailed teaching us

1080
00:51:47,540 --> 00:51:45,600
remote viewing techniques and - they

1081
00:51:51,230 --> 00:51:47,550
wanted people that were specifically of

1082
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:51,240
the Anunnaki human hybrid bloodline so

1083
00:51:55,610 --> 00:51:52,650
they would have some kind of resonance

1084
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:55,620
on a DNA level you know this you know

1085
00:52:00,740 --> 00:51:57,450
this sounds pretty crazy right

1086
00:52:05,180 --> 00:52:00,750
I know okay alright so let's let's stay

1087
00:52:09,850 --> 00:52:05,190
right there so the the 2011 Lync

1088
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:09,860
conference were multiple species of

1089
00:52:18,610 --> 00:52:13,410
extraterrestrial a that got together for

1090
00:52:26,260 --> 00:52:18,620
a conference that was on board and

1091
00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:28,850
exactly it okay I would just want to be

1092
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:32,550
very clear here okay Michael were you

1093
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:35,370
part of this conference no they were

1094
00:52:44,180 --> 00:52:42,570
trying to increase the human they wanted

1095
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:44,190
to a ours wish was to start what he

1096
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:46,110
called the linkage Institute to get more

1097
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:48,450
people that were ready to come up to the

1098
00:52:56,759 --> 00:52:54,160
table and be able to participate

1099
00:52:58,650 --> 00:52:56,769
and luckily it doesn't take many of us

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00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,660
they found out the whole hundreth monkey

1101
00:53:02,819 --> 00:53:00,880
thing you know a lot of people if you

1102
00:53:06,450 --> 00:53:02,829
don't know about it look Google hundreth

1103
00:53:08,759 --> 00:53:06,460
monkey um they put it at seven percent

1104
00:53:12,329 --> 00:53:08,769
that wants a new way of looking at a

1105
00:53:13,410 --> 00:53:12,339
problem you know is conquered it'll

1106
00:53:16,049 --> 00:53:13,420
spread throughout the mass consciousness

1107
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:16,059
of like monkeys or humans they have it

1108
00:53:19,950 --> 00:53:18,130
at seven percent AR agos no it's only

1109
00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:19,960
three percent it only takes three

1110
00:53:25,950 --> 00:53:23,230
percent of us thinking in a higher

1111
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:25,960
frequency love-filled compassionate way

1112
00:53:30,359 --> 00:53:28,000
before those platforms will spread

1113
00:53:32,910 --> 00:53:30,369
throughout all of humanity the linkage

1114
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:32,920
Institute was all about that by the way

1115
00:53:38,609 --> 00:53:36,250
I've taken his wishes and created

1116
00:53:40,220 --> 00:53:38,619
brought back with the help of the team

1117
00:53:42,809 --> 00:53:40,230
members that were going to be talking to

1118
00:53:45,539 --> 00:53:42,819
current core Patrick administers the

1119
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:45,549
Lincoln Institute Facebook group she's

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00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:50,170
worked with don't let her tell but well

1121
00:53:56,999 --> 00:53:51,849
we're gonna do that in just a second I'm

1122
00:54:00,120 --> 00:53:57,009
gonna I want to go back to the the

1123
00:54:03,410 --> 00:54:00,130
actual conference itself for a second

1124
00:54:06,329 --> 00:54:03,420
and we only answer your question I'm I

1125
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:06,339
am being prepared at this moment and I

1126
00:54:15,390 --> 00:54:10,000
was back then to be at the nest next

1127
00:54:23,249 --> 00:54:15,400
linkage conference I'd like to go I'll

1128
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:23,259
get a booth so speaking of booths back

1129
00:54:32,130 --> 00:54:29,440
to the the Lynne conference was the

1130
00:54:35,220 --> 00:54:32,140
notes you have and this is what I like

1131
00:54:37,289 --> 00:54:35,230
you have documentation you've posted on

1132
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:37,299
your website yet you post it up on your

1133
00:54:44,279 --> 00:54:40,000
website they are Borden's like show

1134
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:44,289
notes from the link conference in 2011

1135
00:54:50,759 --> 00:54:48,160
and when i encourage everybody to go and

1136
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:50,769
read it it's long it's it's very

1137
00:54:55,980 --> 00:54:52,960
interesting it's very detailed but when

1138
00:54:58,620 --> 00:54:55,990
you read it you're thinking that it's in

1139
00:55:01,890 --> 00:54:58,630
Las Vegas or at the Marconi Center in

1140
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:01,900
San Francisco you know you're assuming

1141
00:55:07,290 --> 00:55:04,960
it's that kind of conference but it is

1142
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:07,300
not and you have the notes from the

1143
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:09,970
conference and who attended and it was

1144
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:12,850
on board and anunnaki ship and you have

1145
00:55:18,570 --> 00:55:15,490
the notes over at your website Michael

1146
00:55:19,890 --> 00:55:18,580
Lee Hill net yes and you know if you

1147
00:55:22,590 --> 00:55:19,900
back up to what we were talking about

1148
00:55:24,660 --> 00:55:22,600
all this was happening because AR Borden

1149
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:24,670
was already working with the Anunnaki in

1150
00:55:29,820 --> 00:55:27,370
their Court iam group within the

1151
00:55:35,340 --> 00:55:29,830
labyrinth group and they've been

1152
00:55:36,780 --> 00:55:35,350
studying a ancient Sumerian temple that

1153
00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:36,790
they found in New Mexico

1154
00:55:44,060 --> 00:55:39,070
by the way I've just been recently given

1155
00:55:47,340 --> 00:55:44,070
the actual google map coordinates and

1156
00:55:49,410 --> 00:55:47,350
satellite data to the actual entrance on

1157
00:55:51,570 --> 00:55:49,420
top of it's on top of Chaco Canyon and

1158
00:55:54,750 --> 00:55:51,580
there's a military deep underground

1159
00:55:57,810 --> 00:55:54,760
military base a dumb they call it there

1160
00:55:59,760 --> 00:55:57,820
and so maybe we'll all be going there

1161
00:56:00,990 --> 00:55:59,770
make a big party out of it man send me

1162
00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:01,000
the coordinates I'm gonna check it out

1163
00:56:06,660 --> 00:56:04,750
we'll keep Esther I said cuz this came

1164
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:06,670
from the Department of Defense from what

1165
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,710
I understand I said can I share this

1166
00:56:13,410 --> 00:56:10,960
this is very recent by the way you said

1167
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:13,420
yes sure so I got full permission to

1168
00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:14,890
release it all okay

1169
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:16,750
okay I'm gonna check that out for sure

1170
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:19,810
now we're gonna bring on right after the

1171
00:56:25,550 --> 00:56:23,170
break Charlotte and PJ do we have

1172
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:25,560
permission to use their last names

1173
00:56:31,350 --> 00:56:29,650
I guess what just use Charlotte PJ for

1174
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:31,360
now just ask them I'm sure they won't

1175
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:33,400
have a problem and when I understand

1176
00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:36,490
everyone's really open books on this and

1177
00:56:42,990 --> 00:56:40,540
people that don't user you know it's all

1178
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:43,000
good yeah because I have everybody's

1179
00:56:47,010 --> 00:56:45,250
first and last names here and and if

1180
00:56:49,890 --> 00:56:47,020
we're gonna you know if we're gonna go

1181
00:56:51,420 --> 00:56:49,900
forward we need full disclosure you know

1182
00:56:54,990 --> 00:56:51,430
everybody needs to just do that

1183
00:56:56,850 --> 00:56:55,000
I think everyone with that this is it's

1184
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:56,860
gonna be a very fun night now I think

1185
00:57:03,900 --> 00:56:59,440
we've set the tone for everything a our

1186
00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:03,910
Borden was the head of this beta team

1187
00:57:10,820 --> 00:57:07,030
for the NSA whose objective was to

1188
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:10,830
contact incoming Anunnaki for help

1189
00:57:17,010 --> 00:57:13,810
survival like vs doomsday kind of

1190
00:57:18,350 --> 00:57:17,020
situation and of course AR Borden was

1191
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:18,360
also the

1192
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:20,280
head of another NSA project which was

1193
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:23,610
reverse engineering and the remote

1194
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:25,650
viewers and the remote viewers and the

1195
00:57:32,930 --> 00:57:30,570
AC that they owe project which was R&D

1196
00:57:36,650 --> 00:57:32,940
and then of course labyrinth which was

1197
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:36,660
the implementation of everything here it

1198
00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:38,610
was like the big program overseeing

1199
00:57:43,700 --> 00:57:40,910
everything else so pretty complex

1200
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:43,710
situation here and we'll start off the

1201
00:57:49,610 --> 00:57:45,510
night when we come back with Charlotte

1202
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:49,620
and PJ and wow I'm I'm really looking

1203
00:57:53,660 --> 00:57:51,450
forward to this and and Michael thank

1204
00:57:56,330 --> 00:57:53,670
you for putting all of this together

1205
00:57:58,250 --> 00:57:56,340
this is fate Apophis it's my our

1206
00:58:00,290 --> 00:57:58,260
pleasure we're all really excited about

1207
00:58:02,300 --> 00:58:00,300
it and we're all feel the weight of it

1208
00:58:04,190 --> 00:58:02,310
this is historic Jim yeah thank you for

1209
00:58:05,810 --> 00:58:04,200
giving us the opportunity it's gonna be

1210
00:58:07,340 --> 00:58:05,820
great Michael stay right there I'll be

1211
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:07,350
right back with Charlotte and PJ we'll

1212
00:58:10,940 --> 00:58:09,090
kick this evening off this has fade to

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black I'm Niels to be Church can follow

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coming out shimmy Church tonight Michael

1313
01:03:12,349 --> 01:03:07,630
Lee Hill is here and we are gathering

1314
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the members of AR Borden's beta team

1315
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secret group put together and now let's

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bring in Michael Michael you still with

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us yes indeed okay and now I've got

1318
01:03:27,359 --> 01:03:23,920
Charlotte and PJ

1319
01:03:33,530 --> 01:03:27,369
good evening who's with us first hi this

1320
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hi Charlotte welcome to the program and

1321
01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:41,230
Charlotte do you have a last name sure

1322
01:03:52,890 --> 01:03:45,670
it's one how do you how do you spell

1323
01:03:55,650 --> 01:03:52,900
that one say it could be Oh any which

1324
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would be really cool too as well I don't

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know I don't know which one is better so

1326
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there you go Charlotte one now Charlotte

1327
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as we start to get started here

1328
01:04:13,289 --> 01:04:07,780
first things first how did you meet AR

1329
01:04:16,770 --> 01:04:13,299
Borden okay that would be us all thanks

1330
01:04:19,109 --> 01:04:16,780
to Michael because I befriended Michael

1331
01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:19,119
in 2011 and he kept telling me I needed

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to get into contacts where they are

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boarded and he was on Facebook and he

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said you need to add him on Facebook and

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I was like what would this scientist

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want to do with me like I was terrified

1337
01:04:34,650 --> 01:04:33,790
to add him and then finally I sent him a

1338
01:04:37,079 --> 01:04:34,660
friend's request

1339
01:04:38,789 --> 01:04:37,089
and my husband is the one who answered

1340
01:04:41,309 --> 01:04:38,799
that friend's request because he was a

1341
01:04:44,069 --> 01:04:41,319
our Borden's assistant and i didn't know

1342
01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:44,079
that at the time so i had talked to him

1343
01:04:48,809 --> 01:04:47,200
back then and he accepted my friend's

1344
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:48,819
request because they are was out of town

1345
01:04:56,430 --> 01:04:55,210
and then i didn't talk to him okay well

1346
01:04:59,490 --> 01:04:56,440
this is interesting

1347
01:05:02,430 --> 01:04:59,500
what you're suggesting is that PJ your

1348
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:02,440
husband wasn't your husband at the time

1349
01:05:11,170 --> 01:05:05,890
he was a ours assistant and now you guys

1350
01:05:14,049 --> 01:05:11,180
are married yes we met during Veda Wow

1351
01:05:16,359 --> 01:05:14,059
and now see this is what this is what I

1352
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:16,369
really enjoy because my audience right

1353
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:19,730
now is going through the same thing with

1354
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:21,530
us that I'm going through which is wow

1355
01:05:27,579 --> 01:05:23,930
that is that that's a pretty nutty thing

1356
01:05:30,819 --> 01:05:27,589
to to have happen and I love finding out

1357
01:05:33,700 --> 01:05:30,829
things for the first time so you get

1358
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:33,710
introduced to a are you are a

1359
01:05:43,020 --> 01:05:39,490
clairvoyant right yes and was that your

1360
01:05:45,730 --> 01:05:43,030
was that your contribution to the group

1361
01:05:48,819 --> 01:05:45,740
well that and quite a few other things

1362
01:05:50,859 --> 01:05:48,829
like I was a facilitator I got to the

1363
01:05:53,620 --> 01:05:50,869
group meetings together things like that

1364
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:53,630
and then later on I became a ARS

1365
01:05:59,130 --> 01:05:55,609
assistant for a few months before his

1366
01:06:00,670 --> 01:05:59,140
passing right and he passed away in 2013

1367
01:06:04,660 --> 01:06:00,680
yes he did

1368
01:06:07,870 --> 01:06:04,670
okay so what was a are doing at that

1369
01:06:11,099 --> 01:06:07,880
time and what I mean by that is did he

1370
01:06:13,839 --> 01:06:11,109
disclose you know who he was employed by

1371
01:06:15,730 --> 01:06:13,849
what he was doing what you know what did

1372
01:06:19,450 --> 01:06:15,740
you find out about him he had to ask

1373
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:19,460
questions right oh yeah I did I mean he

1374
01:06:24,730 --> 01:06:21,410
was he was a person who was a

1375
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:24,740
need-to-know basis kind of guy he was

1376
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:27,049
very compartment compartmentalised

1377
01:06:31,299 --> 01:06:29,930
and the groups were compartmentalize I

1378
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:31,309
knew there were other groups out there

1379
01:06:38,380 --> 01:06:35,930
that he was also in charge of but we

1380
01:06:41,620 --> 01:06:38,390
didn't really know who was in those

1381
01:06:45,250 --> 01:06:41,630
groups and I never knew who his boss was

1382
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:45,260
although I do know that his boss passed

1383
01:06:50,230 --> 01:06:47,450
away shortly before he did because he

1384
01:06:54,900 --> 01:06:50,240
attended his funeral in June of that

1385
01:06:59,020 --> 01:06:54,910
year mm-hmm and what were you told about

1386
01:07:01,630 --> 01:06:59,030
this group that you were the beta group

1387
01:07:05,319 --> 01:07:01,640
that you were about to be a participant

1388
01:07:07,180 --> 01:07:05,329
in well I was told that I would have

1389
01:07:10,450 --> 01:07:07,190
well first I was told that they would

1390
01:07:12,460 --> 01:07:10,460
submit my name and who I was at that

1391
01:07:14,109 --> 01:07:12,470
time I had only befriended AR and

1392
01:07:16,780 --> 01:07:14,119
Facebook had never spoke with him I was

1393
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:16,790
terrified this because I don't know why

1394
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:19,490
he just seemed like this omnipresent

1395
01:07:28,570 --> 01:07:24,890
kind of being so the person that

1396
01:07:30,190 --> 01:07:28,580
I teamed up with during Veda I can't

1397
01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:30,200
mention her name because she's not part

1398
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:34,160
of the group at the moment but she's the

1399
01:07:40,930 --> 01:07:36,410
one who brought me in and she was

1400
01:07:42,850 --> 01:07:40,940
heading everything at the time and he

1401
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:42,860
told me that I would have to get

1402
01:07:47,500 --> 01:07:44,720
clearance because she said the clearance

1403
01:07:53,260 --> 01:07:47,510
that we would have would be very high

1404
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:53,270
clearance so because there would be

1405
01:08:01,870 --> 01:07:56,960
those who are not from here part of this

1406
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:01,880
group did did you have to go through a

1407
01:08:06,070 --> 01:08:04,010
normal type of background check which is

1408
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:06,080
you know your social security number

1409
01:08:20,620 --> 01:08:15,920
your work history drug use in high

1410
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:20,630
school you know stuff like that I make

1411
01:08:25,390 --> 01:08:23,330
jokes but the thing is is this is

1412
01:08:27,250 --> 01:08:25,400
actually what happens when you go

1413
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:27,260
through that kind of security clearance

1414
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:29,170
everything is disclosed isn't it

1415
01:08:38,770 --> 01:08:32,570
yes everything they knew every single

1416
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:38,780
thing about me my family my family my

1417
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:41,210
genealogy I think I think that's even a

1418
01:08:46,780 --> 01:08:44,690
part of it your your genealogy is part

1419
01:08:50,650 --> 01:08:46,790
of all of that too

1420
01:08:53,860 --> 01:08:50,660
what at what point did they start to

1421
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:53,870
open up about what the group's mission

1422
01:08:59,620 --> 01:08:57,290
was an omission state but yeah we had a

1423
01:09:02,470 --> 01:08:59,630
meeting we had a state meeting actually

1424
01:09:06,310 --> 01:09:02,480
with a our but we didn't know who was

1425
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:06,320
ahead of everything so my friend brought

1426
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:09,440
me into the meeting and for some reason

1427
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:12,770
that instinct inside of me I knew he was

1428
01:09:17,860 --> 01:09:15,890
a part of it I just knew it and then she

1429
01:09:20,350 --> 01:09:17,870
was like tonight on state you're gonna

1430
01:09:23,650 --> 01:09:20,360
be meeting the the big guy

1431
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:23,660
the guy who's in charge and as soon as

1432
01:09:26,860 --> 01:09:25,040
they are came in and started talking

1433
01:09:29,130 --> 01:09:26,870
with everyone I was like oh my god I

1434
01:09:33,370 --> 01:09:29,140
knew this I knew this was all happening

1435
01:09:34,750 --> 01:09:33,380
so he turned out to be amazing he turned

1436
01:09:39,340 --> 01:09:34,760
out to be very personable very

1437
01:09:43,539 --> 01:09:39,350
down-to-earth extraordinaire only Intel

1438
01:09:46,980 --> 01:09:43,549
gentlemen and you was there too and what

1439
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:46,990
was the original mission statement the

1440
01:09:54,610 --> 01:09:51,730
original mission statement was wrong he

1441
01:09:56,410 --> 01:09:54,620
sent me over the first thing he ever

1442
01:09:59,620 --> 01:09:56,420
sent me was the making of a mystic

1443
01:10:02,440 --> 01:09:59,630
scientist from my from my physics and he

1444
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:02,450
told me I really needed to study that so

1445
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:05,120
I studied that document which is

1446
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:07,370
available here on Facebook if in the

1447
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:09,410
writings that they are bored and we have

1448
01:10:16,210 --> 01:10:12,530
that in the file section and it's a very

1449
01:10:21,070 --> 01:10:16,220
unique document and it started preparing

1450
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:21,080
me for what was to come which was which

1451
01:10:29,260 --> 01:10:27,530
was we he told he was very he was he

1452
01:10:32,140 --> 01:10:29,270
only disclosed a few things at a time

1453
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:32,150
and then finally he let us know that we

1454
01:10:37,570 --> 01:10:34,880
were going to be changing a timeline and

1455
01:10:40,780 --> 01:10:37,580
anchoring it and changing the trajectory

1456
01:10:47,140 --> 01:10:40,790
of Nibiru which he called the incoming

1457
01:10:48,700 --> 01:10:47,150
and when you know I have to ask you

1458
01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:48,710
Charlotte when you hear something like

1459
01:10:55,900 --> 01:10:53,600
that what goes through your mind well at

1460
01:11:00,160 --> 01:10:55,910
first disbelief well of course because

1461
01:11:01,540 --> 01:11:00,170
either just as a big pile of BS or you

1462
01:11:03,310 --> 01:11:01,550
are involved in one of the most

1463
01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:03,320
important things in the entire history

1464
01:11:11,290 --> 01:11:07,070
of all that ever was right there's no

1465
01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:11,300
there's no waiting area I went through

1466
01:11:15,070 --> 01:11:13,310
all of those emotions I went through all

1467
01:11:18,490 --> 01:11:15,080
of it I was like okay I don't know what

1468
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:18,500
what is this real what is you know

1469
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:21,170
what's the objective of this and I went

1470
01:11:28,540 --> 01:11:23,450
through all of it when I found out that

1471
01:11:30,910 --> 01:11:28,550
it was real it even today at this moment

1472
01:11:33,310 --> 01:11:30,920
it's hard to believe it's hard to

1473
01:11:35,140 --> 01:11:33,320
believe all of it happen but I know that

1474
01:11:36,730 --> 01:11:35,150
it's real I know that it happened I

1475
01:11:38,590 --> 01:11:36,740
remember I sit down the next morning

1476
01:11:40,900 --> 01:11:38,600
after the meeting the first meeting when

1477
01:11:42,690 --> 01:11:40,910
I knew what was going on and I looked

1478
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:42,700
outside because it was a clear blue sky

1479
01:11:47,890 --> 01:11:45,770
the earth was beautiful that morning and

1480
01:11:49,390 --> 01:11:47,900
I thought I really loved this planet I

1481
01:11:51,940 --> 01:11:49,400
don't want anything to happen to it

1482
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:51,950
because he told us he said you're

1483
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:52,690
risking your

1484
01:11:59,280 --> 01:11:57,280
life but is it worth it

1485
01:12:04,290 --> 01:11:59,290
and I looked outside and I said yeah

1486
01:12:05,850 --> 01:12:04,300
it's worth it next day I went back and I

1487
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:05,860
said yeah I want to be a part of this

1488
01:12:11,459 --> 01:12:08,560
who did you discuss this with Charlotte

1489
01:12:14,729 --> 01:12:11,469
I know that you've you're entering into

1490
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:14,739
some serious NDA and and confidentiality

1491
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:17,290
at that time but did you share this

1492
01:12:23,850 --> 01:12:20,710
information with anybody around you no

1493
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:23,860
one my family knew nothing he told us we

1494
01:12:28,050 --> 01:12:25,810
signed a piece of paper where we weren't

1495
01:12:30,170 --> 01:12:28,060
allowed to disclose it to anyone so I

1496
01:12:33,870 --> 01:12:30,180
didn't even talk to my children about it

1497
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:33,880
did you eventually get a chance to sit

1498
01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:37,690
down with a are face to face yes I did I

1499
01:12:41,670 --> 01:12:40,780
got to go out and meet him in 2013 it

1500
01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:41,680
was amazing

1501
01:12:48,060 --> 01:12:45,430
and where did this happen this happened

1502
01:12:52,229 --> 01:12:48,070
in California I went to go and meet my

1503
01:12:54,090 --> 01:12:52,239
husband actually and I was there he took

1504
01:12:59,490 --> 01:12:54,100
me to meet him and then we went out to a

1505
01:13:01,560 --> 01:12:59,500
Mexican restaurant that is and that's

1506
01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:01,570
called synchronicity right there that's

1507
01:13:08,250 --> 01:13:04,000
that's that's the universe working for

1508
01:13:09,930 --> 01:13:08,260
real but what was a are like because

1509
01:13:14,459 --> 01:13:09,940
when you're going to sit down with

1510
01:13:17,010 --> 01:13:14,469
somebody like this where it's either

1511
01:13:19,260 --> 01:13:17,020
very very important or at just an

1512
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:19,270
elaborate game right it's it's one of

1513
01:13:25,229 --> 01:13:22,090
the two and not to make light of that

1514
01:13:26,939 --> 01:13:25,239
but certainly you're gonna look at them

1515
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:26,949
with that set of eyes you've got to have

1516
01:13:34,500 --> 01:13:31,840
a taste of skepticism I did I had that

1517
01:13:37,170 --> 01:13:34,510
all along until I got to know him and

1518
01:13:38,939 --> 01:13:37,180
then once I got to know him on a very

1519
01:13:42,900 --> 01:13:38,949
personal level because I got to the

1520
01:13:44,910 --> 01:13:42,910
point where I called him dad so once I

1521
01:13:47,959 --> 01:13:44,920
got to know him on that personal level I

1522
01:13:49,650 --> 01:13:47,969
knew he was 100% for real like

1523
01:13:54,930 --> 01:13:49,660
absolutely for real

1524
01:13:58,650 --> 01:13:54,940
Ginuwine now before I get a PJ on the

1525
01:14:00,689 --> 01:13:58,660
line here what how long were you

1526
01:14:03,980 --> 01:14:00,699
involved with the group I know that AR

1527
01:14:06,380 --> 01:14:03,990
passed away in 2013

1528
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:06,390
was the mission objective complete how

1529
01:14:12,410 --> 01:14:08,490
many meetings did you guys have how

1530
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:12,420
often did you get together Oh messy well

1531
01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:16,050
it started for me in August of 2012 and

1532
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:19,020
then it went until after August of 2013

1533
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:22,890
and then after a are passed we sort of

1534
01:14:27,380 --> 01:14:25,290
all calmed down when we all stayed in

1535
01:14:29,330 --> 01:14:27,390
touch with each other because we all of

1536
01:14:31,580 --> 01:14:29,340
the members of the group became very

1537
01:14:32,780 --> 01:14:31,590
close friends so once you go through

1538
01:14:36,230 --> 01:14:32,790
something like that together you're not

1539
01:14:40,670 --> 01:14:36,240
even friends your family and what

1540
01:14:42,110 --> 01:14:40,680
happened was it mission complete I don't

1541
01:14:45,050 --> 01:14:42,120
think it's I don't think it'll ever be

1542
01:14:49,490 --> 01:14:45,060
complete and we haven't got back

1543
01:14:54,620 --> 01:14:49,500
together in a in a manner like we did in

1544
01:14:59,480 --> 01:14:54,630
2012 but I could see that happening in

1545
01:15:01,460 --> 01:14:59,490
the future absolutely in Christ in my

1546
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:01,470
words I have where they are he said our

1547
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:04,050
mission was successful but we pissed off

1548
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:04,890
the wrong people

1549
01:15:09,170 --> 01:15:07,290
he's talking about the transhumanist he

1550
01:15:10,370 --> 01:15:09,180
said they were the ones behind the

1551
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:10,380
Georgia Guidestones

1552
01:15:18,010 --> 01:15:13,890
so he point-blank said our missions were

1553
01:15:22,730 --> 01:15:18,020
successful we stopped their depopulation

1554
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:22,740
agendas but I'll just leave it there

1555
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:25,530
well and then of course altering the

1556
01:15:33,740 --> 01:15:28,800
course of Nibiru but so that's pretty

1557
01:15:39,710 --> 01:15:33,750
heavy as well what was that part of the

1558
01:15:42,850 --> 01:15:39,720
mission complete yes yes we're in grace

1559
01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:42,860
and we could talk about that because um

1560
01:15:50,030 --> 01:15:46,080
there's a lot of when you're talking

1561
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:50,040
about time changes in timeline there's a

1562
01:15:55,940 --> 01:15:52,970
lot that can happen right right

1563
01:15:59,060 --> 01:15:55,950
Charlotte thank you for taking the time

1564
01:16:04,820 --> 01:15:59,070
here and is it okay with you if I speak

1565
01:16:08,710 --> 01:16:04,830
with PJ your husband yeah Thank You

1566
01:16:16,700 --> 01:16:13,220
Wow Michael pretty incredible yeah it's

1567
01:16:17,089 --> 01:16:16,710
a quite the group I'm so excited just to

1568
01:16:20,899 --> 01:16:17,099
hear

1569
01:16:21,919 --> 01:16:20,909
you talk to them yeah yeah and it's

1570
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:21,929
pretty fascinating

1571
01:16:28,699 --> 01:16:26,159
PJ are you with us yes hi how are you

1572
01:16:29,979 --> 01:16:28,709
guys we're fantastic PJ say hi to

1573
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:29,989
Michael he's right here

1574
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:39,469
again there buddy okay PJ we've only got

1575
01:16:45,139 --> 01:16:41,760
a few short minutes together here so I'm

1576
01:16:52,189 --> 01:16:45,149
gonna get straight to it how did you get

1577
01:16:59,000 --> 01:16:52,199
involved with a our Borden oh wow I go

1578
01:17:04,459 --> 01:16:59,010
start with its back in when I was three

1579
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:04,469
years old he met me ever since then

1580
01:17:16,299 --> 01:17:11,760
and then we departed when I was younger

1581
01:17:20,959 --> 01:17:16,309
and then we met back in back in 2009

1582
01:17:26,379 --> 01:17:20,969
closer 2010 and you became his assistant

1583
01:17:35,209 --> 01:17:29,179
startle fast more likely like internship

1584
01:17:37,310 --> 01:17:35,219
first and then after that I was paid

1585
01:17:39,649 --> 01:17:37,320
there was a paid position and where were

1586
01:17:41,500 --> 01:17:39,659
you working for him was it here in

1587
01:17:44,389 --> 01:17:41,510
Southern California

1588
01:17:47,239 --> 01:17:44,399
yes actually met effectively were

1589
01:17:49,339 --> 01:17:47,249
stationed in California you were

1590
01:17:58,629 --> 01:17:49,349
stationed I like the way that you put

1591
01:18:10,219 --> 01:18:03,849
actually it was a few different places

1592
01:18:13,580 --> 01:18:10,229
that he had I cannot mention a whole lot

1593
01:18:18,639 --> 01:18:13,590
places but I can mention few that is

1594
01:18:29,020 --> 01:18:18,649
there's one I was in senators California

1595
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:29,030
there was one was not too far from LA

1596
01:18:35,930 --> 01:18:30,570
California

1597
01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:35,940
I'll say that much and did a are adopt

1598
01:18:41,170 --> 01:18:36,450
you

1599
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:41,180
am i understanding that correctly in

1600
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:47,520
packing quality kind of we became so

1601
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:49,530
close that I I caught him that sometimes

1602
01:18:54,380 --> 01:18:51,810
though because they before the heel was

1603
01:19:00,470 --> 01:18:54,390
my my mentor and he is my teacher back

1604
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:00,480
then and he betraying different kinds of

1605
01:19:05,060 --> 01:19:02,970
like in a way like a light training no

1606
01:19:13,070 --> 01:19:05,070
way and you come from the military

1607
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:13,080
family I I believe so okay I'm trying to

1608
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:16,290
understand the connections here and if

1609
01:19:22,490 --> 01:19:19,650
you were in a military family were those

1610
01:19:31,450 --> 01:19:22,500
related you know your association with

1611
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:31,460
AR Borden I'll stay when my my grandpa

1612
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:37,110
went to Vietnam War and I heard that

1613
01:19:42,980 --> 01:19:40,290
they met in the war together and I guess

1614
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:42,990
my grandpa was also working at Sochi

1615
01:19:51,230 --> 01:19:46,080
with the US military and South Korea

1616
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:51,240
together back then so your grandpa

1617
01:19:55,580 --> 01:19:54,090
explained explain that relationship to

1618
01:19:57,980 --> 01:19:55,590
me you're saying that AR and your

1619
01:20:01,880 --> 01:19:57,990
grandfather met while in the military

1620
01:20:05,380 --> 01:20:01,890
over in Vietnam that's correct

1621
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:05,390
ken they became friends after the war

1622
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:10,110
and then he came to visit my grandpa but

1623
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:14,730
funny thing is me and my my my parents

1624
01:20:21,500 --> 01:20:17,520
were visiting my grandpa at the same

1625
01:20:25,310 --> 01:20:21,510
time he was visiting my grandpa too okay

1626
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:25,320
and now at what point were you starting

1627
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:29,760
to get exposed to the Annunaki side of

1628
01:20:37,130 --> 01:20:35,040
AR Borden and and that entire because

1629
01:20:39,500 --> 01:20:37,140
that is outside of everything else that

1630
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:39,510
that society knows about when did that

1631
01:20:46,670 --> 01:20:41,600
start to happen

1632
01:20:49,700 --> 01:20:46,680
that started well I been having a lot of

1633
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,710
questions about people who are not from

1634
01:20:54,350 --> 01:20:51,360
here so I think actually I've been

1635
01:20:59,000 --> 01:20:54,360
asking him before he even explained

1636
01:21:01,150 --> 01:20:59,010
things to me I told him that you know my

1637
01:21:03,530 --> 01:21:01,160
background knows what my family is

1638
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:03,540
Christian and based off all the religion

1639
01:21:10,490 --> 01:21:07,370
bases so I had a questions about I know

1640
01:21:12,380 --> 01:21:10,500
were not only wrong in this in this in

1641
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:12,390
this universe there's gotta be more than

1642
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:14,730
out there and then he think that's when

1643
01:21:18,890 --> 01:21:17,250
we start filling me in about the people

1644
01:21:21,890 --> 01:21:18,900
who are not from peer like other Nucky's

1645
01:21:23,390 --> 01:21:21,900
reptilian etc of different hundred

1646
01:21:24,670 --> 01:21:23,400
thirty-two different species that we

1647
01:21:31,820 --> 01:21:24,680
know so far

1648
01:21:33,950 --> 01:21:31,830
and when when he started to work for AR

1649
01:21:36,170 --> 01:21:33,960
and now you're his assistant and I know

1650
01:21:40,670 --> 01:21:36,180
that you mentioned an intern type of

1651
01:21:44,480 --> 01:21:40,680
thing but with everything that he was

1652
01:21:46,340 --> 01:21:44,490
involved with at that point you had to

1653
01:21:49,670 --> 01:21:46,350
go through the same I'm assuming the

1654
01:21:53,890 --> 01:21:49,680
same security issues did you know the

1655
01:22:00,820 --> 01:21:53,900
full depth of what AR was working on and

1656
01:22:06,050 --> 01:22:00,830
what his goals were he told me in time

1657
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:06,060
he said he was working on a lot of so he

1658
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:09,930
caught us stuff and then explain things

1659
01:22:14,210 --> 01:22:11,610
knew what it was doing and why he was

1660
01:22:18,350 --> 01:22:14,220
doing was the purpose of doing it and he

1661
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:18,360
told me his he's our story of how he

1662
01:22:26,930 --> 01:22:21,120
started he told me about his stories

1663
01:22:29,930 --> 01:22:26,940
behind it too so I don't know if I can

1664
01:22:33,170 --> 01:22:29,940
tell a crash-course about the story or I

1665
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:33,180
can have a long type of the story but so

1666
01:22:47,950 --> 01:22:42,560
explain a lot about the Anunnaki in

1667
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:47,960
ancient ones back in and all the type of

1668
01:22:55,500 --> 01:22:51,050
different entities were out there well

1669
01:22:58,800 --> 01:22:55,510
PJ you're you're a are Borden's as

1670
01:23:00,840 --> 01:22:58,810
and surely you knew about everything

1671
01:23:04,050 --> 01:23:00,850
that was going on he needs to put this

1672
01:23:07,020 --> 01:23:04,060
group together he's working with the NSA

1673
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:07,030
we've got some very complex things that

1674
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:09,610
are happening exactly what were you

1675
01:23:31,939 --> 01:23:26,110
exposed to when when I was within back

1676
01:23:35,729 --> 01:23:31,949
there he had a meeting that they have

1677
01:23:39,420 --> 01:23:35,739
every once a year they have an annual

1678
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:39,430
meeting you know how those are g20

1679
01:23:43,950 --> 01:23:41,290
meetings those production meetings like

1680
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:43,960
that so he said this is poorly different

1681
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:46,570
but there's a meeting up there that they

1682
01:23:53,820 --> 01:23:50,650
have conferences together everyone's

1683
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:53,830
that here so he decided to invite me

1684
01:23:59,130 --> 01:23:57,370
with them to go up there with him which

1685
01:24:02,689 --> 01:23:59,140
it was a very interesting and what

1686
01:24:07,290 --> 01:24:02,699
happened where was it who was there

1687
01:24:09,540 --> 01:24:07,300
Wow where was it PJ let's start there

1688
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:09,550
I'm running out of time I've got to get

1689
01:24:22,110 --> 01:24:12,010
to a commercial here where was the

1690
01:24:37,050 --> 01:24:22,120
meeting at it was definitely not here PJ

1691
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:37,060
PJ PJ where was the meeting at okay you

1692
01:24:41,820 --> 01:24:39,370
know PJ you have to understand this is

1693
01:24:45,060 --> 01:24:41,830
live radio and there's a large audience

1694
01:24:46,709 --> 01:24:45,070
that's listening right now so when I say

1695
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:46,719
when I ask you a question like that

1696
01:25:01,320 --> 01:24:54,850
where was the meeting at where was it it

1697
01:25:08,620 --> 01:25:01,330
was that we now known as incoming or the

1698
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:12,070
and I mean though and and that's where

1699
01:25:22,750 --> 01:25:20,330
AR went yes and how okay whoa let's get

1700
01:25:25,959 --> 01:25:22,760
to let's get to it how did he get there

1701
01:25:31,660 --> 01:25:25,969
any you just said that you went with him

1702
01:25:32,110 --> 01:25:31,670
right yes okay so how did you guys get

1703
01:25:34,899 --> 01:25:32,120
there

1704
01:25:39,330 --> 01:25:34,909
I'm just curious I mean I I need to know

1705
01:25:39,340 --> 01:25:45,840
Wow how do I explain this

1706
01:25:59,500 --> 01:25:53,320
it was it was not it was feel like it

1707
01:26:06,040 --> 01:25:59,510
wasn't some kind of a bubble not the

1708
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:06,050
kind that you horizon this it's some

1709
01:26:14,669 --> 01:26:09,290
it's a matures it's not from yeah we

1710
01:26:20,770 --> 01:26:19,060
it's transparent but it's not solid at

1711
01:26:24,189 --> 01:26:20,780
the same time I don't know you get what

1712
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:24,199
I'm saying it's that kind of it sir that

1713
01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:28,570
we were in this this materials I guess

1714
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:32,800
we can call it a some kind of a

1715
01:26:39,399 --> 01:26:36,530
transportation device because there was

1716
01:26:43,620 --> 01:26:39,409
not like the touch and you feel it it

1717
01:26:50,830 --> 01:26:43,630
was just surrounding feeling do you get

1718
01:26:55,450 --> 01:26:50,840
did you go to a base if it was like a it

1719
01:27:00,129 --> 01:26:55,460
looks like if you look at those medieval

1720
01:27:02,140 --> 01:27:00,139
times movies or in a castle have a have

1721
01:27:05,379 --> 01:27:02,150
a it's like a throne room but it's a

1722
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:05,389
throne I have a table there that is fun

1723
01:27:09,399 --> 01:27:06,290
ever

1724
01:27:15,010 --> 01:27:09,409
some kind of stools around it's like a

1725
01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:15,020
round table homeless it was it was it

1726
01:27:22,660 --> 01:27:18,710
feels like some kind of gray night it's

1727
01:27:27,820 --> 01:27:25,150
as a sum concert piece in the middle

1728
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:27,830
that I can quiet really explain what

1729
01:27:36,490 --> 01:27:31,330
there was exactly but there was like a

1730
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:36,500
looked like a almost like a shape of a

1731
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:39,050
pyramid on the middle piece that I can

1732
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:42,050
say so far that I member how many times

1733
01:27:46,540 --> 01:27:44,330
did you do this I've only got about 60

1734
01:27:57,300 --> 01:27:46,550
seconds PJ how many times did you make

1735
01:28:01,689 --> 01:27:57,310
this trip right about twice or twice

1736
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:01,699
twice twice and both trips were to

1737
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:05,650
Nibiru and were these like year apart

1738
01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:10,370
it was annually but another time I went

1739
01:28:22,540 --> 01:28:16,239
to that I don't know exactly where I was

1740
01:28:29,380 --> 01:28:22,550
it was things like it wasn't a it was in

1741
01:28:35,350 --> 01:28:29,390
a room but it was not not like the wall

1742
01:28:37,419 --> 01:28:35,360
has how long PJ how long did you work

1743
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:37,429
for a our board and when did it at well

1744
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:40,880
he passed away in 2013 but did you

1745
01:28:53,110 --> 01:28:44,690
continue within the organization after

1746
01:28:55,390 --> 01:28:53,120
that after he he passed on I was

1747
01:29:04,479 --> 01:28:55,400
actually you know in in in you know in

1748
01:29:08,350 --> 01:29:04,489
in grief alone so I took some some time

1749
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:08,360
off a little bit well I want to thank

1750
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:11,449
you for taking the time tonight to come

1751
01:29:17,709 --> 01:29:13,610
on and talk with us and and thanks

1752
01:29:19,900 --> 01:29:17,719
Charlotte for me too as well and this

1753
01:29:22,689 --> 01:29:19,910
has been an absolutely fascinating

1754
01:29:24,700 --> 01:29:22,699
conversation so far absolutely

1755
01:29:26,770 --> 01:29:24,710
incredible thank you so much PJ thank

1756
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:26,780
you to Charlotte yeah yeah absolutely

1757
01:29:31,689 --> 01:29:29,690
and we've got to take a break right here

1758
01:29:33,390 --> 01:29:31,699
I took it up to the very end this is

1759
01:29:36,170 --> 01:29:33,400
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1760
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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

1837
01:33:25,580 --> 01:33:23,390
Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

1838
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[Music]

1842
01:34:19,470 --> 01:34:17,250
welcome back fade to black I'm your host

1843
01:34:21,930 --> 01:34:19,480
Jimmy Church our guest tonight is

1844
01:34:26,580 --> 01:34:21,940
Michael Lee Hill and we've got on all

1845
01:34:28,170 --> 01:34:26,590
the members of AR Borden's beta team and

1846
01:34:31,590 --> 01:34:28,180
I want to thank Charlotte and PJ for

1847
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coming on and PJ was great and it's

1848
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:34,150
information you know we're right up

1849
01:34:40,170 --> 01:34:38,080
against the commercial and and I was

1850
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:40,180
trying to get some more information out

1851
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of them as quick as possible and Michael

1852
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I know that you were hearing the

1853
01:34:51,750 --> 01:34:49,750
frustration in my voices is about you

1854
01:34:54,990 --> 01:34:51,760
know I want to keep it I've got more

1855
01:34:59,790 --> 01:34:55,000
questions I need more information

1856
01:35:02,220 --> 01:34:59,800
this is great you know just because of a

1857
01:35:04,980 --> 01:35:02,230
little hurry up bringing you know some

1858
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:04,990
people radio is not there no I totally

1859
01:35:14,130 --> 01:35:08,170
get that I totally get that I totally

1860
01:35:17,010 --> 01:35:14,140
get that out of them absolutely

1861
01:35:18,660 --> 01:35:17,020
absolutely and you know me blown away

1862
01:35:21,230 --> 01:35:18,670
I've learned some things I didn't know

1863
01:35:25,530 --> 01:35:21,240
he's ever had a linkage Institute

1864
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:25,540
conference and and speaking of that too

1865
01:35:30,690 --> 01:35:28,810
I think he said we've got Karen

1866
01:35:36,210 --> 01:35:30,700
Christine Patrick on with this Karen

1867
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:36,220
good evening and thank you and now you

1868
01:35:41,460 --> 01:35:39,490
are just for everybody your your the

1869
01:35:44,370 --> 01:35:41,470
head of the linkage Institute and you

1870
01:35:46,980 --> 01:35:44,380
also run that Facebook page and you're

1871
01:35:50,220 --> 01:35:46,990
documenting everything right now it's a

1872
01:35:52,170 --> 01:35:50,230
pretty big job and there you go so thank

1873
01:35:55,770 --> 01:35:52,180
you for taking the time tonight to come

1874
01:35:58,740 --> 01:35:55,780
on and and discuss the you know when it

1875
01:36:04,560 --> 01:35:58,750
comes to AR Borden for this community

1876
01:36:06,540 --> 01:36:04,570
the he he is and maybe even an enigma is

1877
01:36:10,620 --> 01:36:06,550
the right word right where we don't know

1878
01:36:14,430 --> 01:36:10,630
much about him a very important figure

1879
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:14,440
in in this organization but he's not

1880
01:36:21,930 --> 01:36:17,650
with us anymore and so we have to rely

1881
01:36:23,910 --> 01:36:21,940
on you and others including Michael

1882
01:36:25,190 --> 01:36:23,920
who's been telling me about AR now for

1883
01:36:27,740 --> 01:36:25,200
years

1884
01:36:30,380 --> 01:36:27,750
and we're all intrigued right the man

1885
01:36:34,660 --> 01:36:30,390
right here Borden how did you get

1886
01:36:38,330 --> 01:36:34,670
involved with the beta team in AR well I

1887
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:38,340
was you know kind of doing my mashed

1888
01:36:46,250 --> 01:36:41,250
potatoes this new something experiences

1889
01:36:51,140 --> 01:36:46,260
in 2009 and 2010 I had some significant

1890
01:36:53,270 --> 01:36:51,150
experiences in late seventies but I was

1891
01:36:55,940 --> 01:36:53,280
I had a religious upbringing so I kind

1892
01:36:58,490 --> 01:36:55,950
of put all that aside quite years in the

1893
01:36:59,930 --> 01:36:58,500
family then I wanted you know I hadn't

1894
01:37:02,480 --> 01:36:59,940
need to know so I started reading

1895
01:37:04,250 --> 01:37:02,490
everything I could and I read a couple

1896
01:37:06,380 --> 01:37:04,260
of articles with the air board and the

1897
01:37:09,260 --> 01:37:06,390
USO Digest I can't remember the first

1898
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:09,270
time I read the second two articles I

1899
01:37:16,990 --> 01:37:13,170
read really struck me as resonating true

1900
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:17,000
for me and it was articles without

1901
01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:20,130
topological thinking which has to do

1902
01:37:24,770 --> 01:37:22,110
with the aliens communicating their

1903
01:37:27,290 --> 01:37:24,780
concern that humans are then kind of

1904
01:37:29,990 --> 01:37:27,300
dumb down you know and we don't use all

1905
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:30,000
the things available to us you saw

1906
01:37:35,810 --> 01:37:31,850
problems with very compartmentalized

1907
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:35,820
even within ourselves you know so I was

1908
01:37:40,700 --> 01:37:37,440
so excited about his article the time I

1909
01:37:42,530 --> 01:37:40,710
had three not very frequent internet

1910
01:37:45,020 --> 01:37:42,540
usage and whatnot I was living on a boat

1911
01:37:47,180 --> 01:37:45,030
so I started writing every time I got

1912
01:37:49,820 --> 01:37:47,190
some Wi-Fi I started writing the

1913
01:37:51,770 --> 01:37:49,830
topological thinking articles by hand

1914
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:51,780
I wondered really get it in my head and

1915
01:37:57,050 --> 01:37:54,480
at the particular time I was in a very

1916
01:38:00,290 --> 01:37:57,060
interesting situation I had been know a

1917
01:38:02,690 --> 01:38:00,300
lot of Astoria they are Borden is who we

1918
01:38:05,450 --> 01:38:02,700
were up to the point we've got involved

1919
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:05,460
and who I was there was experience of

1920
01:38:09,710 --> 01:38:07,050
what I was like trying to sort it out

1921
01:38:12,260 --> 01:38:09,720
you know so I started doing we call

1922
01:38:14,300 --> 01:38:12,270
automatic writing in 2009 and I actually

1923
01:38:17,570 --> 01:38:14,310
made contact subscribe to see this again

1924
01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:17,580
and the automatic writing helps me you

1925
01:38:20,930 --> 01:38:18,960
know I'd be writing the phrases and

1926
01:38:23,180 --> 01:38:20,940
words down as I sort of telepathically

1927
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:23,190
felt them and then go back and read that

1928
01:38:27,290 --> 01:38:25,110
and they were giving me a bunch of

1929
01:38:30,860 --> 01:38:27,300
information about what's going on like

1930
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:30,870
in this present era right and and I

1931
01:38:35,050 --> 01:38:32,610
didn't understand it yes when they're

1932
01:38:36,230 --> 01:38:35,060
maryland is a topological thinking

1933
01:38:39,020 --> 01:38:36,240
particles

1934
01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:39,030
i actually he called it tempo

1935
01:38:43,879 --> 01:38:42,719
pío pío think you can set up to take

1936
01:38:45,950 --> 01:38:43,889
care of boredom I don't find those

1937
01:38:50,750 --> 01:38:45,960
articles are still around on us our

1938
01:38:54,020 --> 01:38:50,760
digest anyway well I made contact and

1939
01:38:55,790 --> 01:38:54,030
you know what this is abuse and click or

1940
01:38:59,390 --> 01:38:55,800
it takes place over a number of years

1941
01:39:02,270 --> 01:38:59,400
it's involving what he called notions in

1942
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:02,280
a I was one of the organizers of the

1943
01:39:07,790 --> 01:39:04,050
Mars anomaly Research Society conference

1944
01:39:10,399 --> 01:39:07,800
in Silver City New Mexico and one of my

1945
01:39:13,790 --> 01:39:10,409
presentation was the psychic session off

1946
01:39:15,770 --> 01:39:13,800
and they was this idea of who's no sense

1947
01:39:17,979 --> 01:39:15,780
those like they have Gnostic but it's

1948
01:39:21,290 --> 01:39:17,989
noted we were people who were getting

1949
01:39:23,060 --> 01:39:21,300
information by non ordinary meaning they

1950
01:39:25,399 --> 01:39:23,070
declare Volant and different things like

1951
01:39:27,229 --> 01:39:25,409
that and that's what wasn't my

1952
01:39:31,100 --> 01:39:27,239
experience I wasn't even being recruited

1953
01:39:34,879 --> 01:39:31,110
in graceful in that regard and so it was

1954
01:39:36,890 --> 01:39:34,889
very complexed and so then got involved

1955
01:39:39,109 --> 01:39:36,900
in the big program and a good way to

1956
01:39:41,930 --> 01:39:39,119
describe that is a basically intentional

1957
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:41,940
experiment with pairs of us people whose

1958
01:39:46,100 --> 01:39:44,010
work through a protocol that was written

1959
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:46,110
out unfortunately might the partner that

1960
01:39:52,569 --> 01:39:50,130
I had is no longer a secessionist we

1961
01:39:56,299 --> 01:39:52,579
have a lot of you know after an aborted

1962
01:39:58,669 --> 01:39:56,309
transition everybody is going safely all

1963
01:40:00,830 --> 01:39:58,679
hell broke loose you know I had to leave

1964
01:40:02,540 --> 01:40:00,840
my situation I ended up working on that

1965
01:40:06,470 --> 01:40:02,550
concept or just my research and my

1966
01:40:08,629 --> 01:40:06,480
partner and I edited and was Ken Johnson

1967
01:40:12,919 --> 01:40:08,639
so I kind of got pulled away over into

1968
01:40:15,470 --> 01:40:12,929
trying to find out you know this is you

1969
01:40:18,350 --> 01:40:15,480
know mix of information involving the

1970
01:40:21,109 --> 01:40:18,360
space program and over I thought it over

1971
01:40:23,930 --> 01:40:21,119
and the covert base with him and that's

1972
01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:23,940
kind of where I've been is kind of just

1973
01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:25,920
trying to understand the mind off right

1974
01:40:30,830 --> 01:40:28,800
and well as continuing to be a contact

1975
01:40:32,779 --> 01:40:30,840
day I was yeah we're sorry if there are

1976
01:40:34,850 --> 01:40:32,789
a lot of different things but they are

1977
01:40:37,370 --> 01:40:34,860
boarding seeing a social class and I

1978
01:40:39,500 --> 01:40:37,380
think a bit advanced it's yes there was

1979
01:40:41,779 --> 01:40:39,510
it a while the material I've hardly

1980
01:40:43,819 --> 01:40:41,789
started Facebook groups or items of air

1981
01:40:45,529 --> 01:40:43,829
board in them and Charlotte's with Adam

1982
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:45,539
and I'm a war we'll make sure we add

1983
01:40:50,299 --> 01:40:47,449
people they make a request on facebook

1984
01:40:52,250 --> 01:40:50,309
I'm just going to go in the file click

1985
01:40:55,670 --> 01:40:52,260
and read the file it was amazing

1986
01:40:58,880 --> 01:40:55,680
and Karen what year was this

1987
01:41:04,340 --> 01:40:58,890
you mentioned 2009 when did you first

1988
01:41:06,950 --> 01:41:04,350
make contact with AR 2010 then I got

1989
01:41:09,530 --> 01:41:06,960
involved in in you know communications

1990
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:09,540
with him and a Michael Charlotte and I

1991
01:41:15,380 --> 01:41:13,170
were on a radio show together I condors

1992
01:41:17,540 --> 01:41:15,390
my situation coming from a very

1993
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:17,550
restrictive religious background whether

1994
01:41:21,770 --> 01:41:19,050
I should come out with my contact

1995
01:41:24,350 --> 01:41:21,780
experiences so I had to then in 2004

1996
01:41:26,810 --> 01:41:24,360
another my radio mm hey if you're gonna

1997
01:41:34,070 --> 01:41:26,820
come out of the Galactic closet 2012

1998
01:41:36,550 --> 01:41:34,080
ended good year and I didn't and so how

1999
01:41:40,130 --> 01:41:36,560
did you how did you make contact with AR

2000
01:41:45,020 --> 01:41:40,140
um I made contact missin true I think

2001
01:41:46,340 --> 01:41:45,030
UFO Digest article had to email and can

2002
01:41:48,500 --> 01:41:46,350
I offer connection with them on Facebook

2003
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:48,510
he was available on Facebook so good

2004
01:41:52,729 --> 01:41:51,090
email Facebook a few meetings that we

2005
01:41:56,300 --> 01:41:52,739
had group meetings that was organized by

2006
01:41:59,270 --> 01:41:56,310
Charlotte so depending on what we were

2007
01:42:01,640 --> 01:41:59,280
doing towards the end we had a lot of

2008
01:42:05,090 --> 01:42:01,650
interference we have we tried

2009
01:42:07,700 --> 01:42:05,100
differences conference software I mean

2010
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:07,710
this was a thing all the way through is

2011
01:42:13,729 --> 01:42:11,370
interference intervention half I call it

2012
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:13,739
a hassle factor you know quack

2013
01:42:18,260 --> 01:42:16,560
electronic stuff from around phone calls

2014
01:42:20,750 --> 01:42:18,270
phone call the droppings weird noises

2015
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:20,760
citrus which has been a feature of my

2016
01:42:25,310 --> 01:42:23,760
life several situations the other the

2017
01:42:28,580 --> 01:42:25,320
other thing I went on some with you is

2018
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:28,590
being enough that actually I have a cell

2019
01:42:32,530 --> 01:42:30,330
phone and computer computer world on a

2020
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:32,540
20-year business in a computer world

2021
01:42:37,610 --> 01:42:34,890
pre-internet so are your bulletin board

2022
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:37,620
systems and everything and I became

2023
01:42:43,100 --> 01:42:40,650
aware that our internet like this

2024
01:42:45,860 --> 01:42:43,110
technology has been trickling to us

2025
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:45,870
through from you know I think you see

2026
01:42:49,700 --> 01:42:47,370
sources soon and military-industrial

2027
01:42:54,170 --> 01:42:49,710
complex and then given to us I believe

2028
01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:54,180
initially to make a control grid she

2029
01:42:57,410 --> 01:42:55,920
wants to watch it you know monitor us

2030
01:42:59,180 --> 01:42:57,420
we're now getting the ball back from

2031
01:43:00,830 --> 01:42:59,190
that you know with them you know was

2032
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:00,840
strictly nice and calling us take movies

2033
01:43:06,079 --> 01:43:04,110
and all that but it's teaching us how

2034
01:43:08,929 --> 01:43:06,089
the sort of galactic in

2035
01:43:12,169 --> 01:43:08,939
network we're like a training wheel for

2036
01:43:14,029 --> 01:43:12,179
that so I'm a high-level communicator

2037
01:43:17,209 --> 01:43:14,039
when I finally let myself do that you

2038
01:43:21,079 --> 01:43:17,219
know and I was able to meditate and go

2039
01:43:23,149 --> 01:43:21,089
into various areas and the data problem

2040
01:43:26,299 --> 01:43:23,159
so charlatans didn't ask us about that

2041
01:43:28,549 --> 01:43:26,309
we call it slap one was not it was an

2042
01:43:32,359 --> 01:43:28,559
interaction between us and what we were

2043
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:32,369
working with but also after they are

2044
01:43:38,239 --> 01:43:34,800
transitioned I'm in contact through

2045
01:43:39,949 --> 01:43:38,249
another principal main event he they was

2046
01:43:42,169 --> 01:43:39,959
talking about a space level this was I

2047
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:42,179
was done I did just know it was I didn't

2048
01:43:46,250 --> 01:43:44,010
know there but I was like you know

2049
01:43:48,259 --> 01:43:46,260
connected to it and I made contact they

2050
01:43:50,989 --> 01:43:48,269
are through that after his transition so

2051
01:43:53,319 --> 01:43:50,999
a lot of people here know Edward and who

2052
01:43:55,459 --> 01:43:53,329
are not completely convinced of his

2053
01:43:57,259 --> 01:43:55,469
passing there's a lot of hinky dinky

2054
01:43:59,689 --> 01:43:57,269
stuff about that but I don't want to go

2055
01:44:02,059 --> 01:43:59,699
because I'm actually more interested in

2056
01:44:03,829 --> 01:44:02,069
the information and the main information

2057
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:03,839
we got was something called IDEO

2058
01:44:09,859 --> 01:44:07,050
material sort of a form of quantum

2059
01:44:12,079 --> 01:44:09,869
hologram theory and err the original why

2060
01:44:14,449 --> 01:44:12,089
physics group was actually physicists

2061
01:44:17,449 --> 01:44:14,459
they were sort of rugs in the writings

2062
01:44:21,829 --> 01:44:17,459
we don't get their real names and then

2063
01:44:24,979 --> 01:44:21,839
here's gnosis people intuitive to sort

2064
01:44:26,869 --> 01:44:24,989
of go in remote viewing some structure

2065
01:44:29,659 --> 01:44:26,879
of the galaxy and creation and

2066
01:44:32,659 --> 01:44:29,669
materiality of energy base not

2067
01:44:34,909 --> 01:44:32,669
necessarily partically and for them so

2068
01:44:37,790 --> 01:44:34,919
that what happened was a are felt like

2069
01:44:40,099 --> 01:44:37,800
more people needed to know about this so

2070
01:44:42,229 --> 01:44:40,109
he actually went out and found a group

2071
01:44:44,809 --> 01:44:42,239
of Knossos communicate that he knew

2072
01:44:47,149 --> 01:44:44,819
would understand the material sort of

2073
01:44:51,139 --> 01:44:47,159
gut-level and then began to absorb it

2074
01:44:55,579 --> 01:44:51,149
that's that is fascinating and that's

2075
01:44:58,520 --> 01:44:55,589
also heavy heavy science for you when

2076
01:45:00,739 --> 01:44:58,530
you are starting to get exposed to this

2077
01:45:04,129 --> 01:45:00,749
because this is this is way out stuff

2078
01:45:06,739 --> 01:45:04,139
right this goes against the grain of of

2079
01:45:09,409 --> 01:45:06,749
all you know science and physics that

2080
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:09,419
we're trying to figure out today for you

2081
01:45:19,820 --> 01:45:17,489
how did you start to accept this sort of

2082
01:45:22,790 --> 01:45:19,830
project challenge

2083
01:45:25,340 --> 01:45:22,800
California they were recruiting mosted

2084
01:45:26,900 --> 01:45:25,350
kids the program somehow I had a divine

2085
01:45:29,270 --> 01:45:26,910
intervention that sent me on that

2086
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:29,280
probably wouldn't survive it and I Bela

2087
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:31,920
connected with MKULTRA and all this

2088
01:45:36,470 --> 01:45:33,930
other stuff is like the list the program

2089
01:45:39,740 --> 01:45:36,480
just goes on and on but I was tested I

2090
01:45:43,100 --> 01:45:39,750
was brought in I was in multiple

2091
01:45:45,290 --> 01:45:43,110
situations my nurses guilty and I had it

2092
01:45:47,900 --> 01:45:45,300
my whole life but were humans the most

2093
01:45:49,850 --> 01:45:47,910
and my personalized which is an impact

2094
01:45:53,300 --> 01:45:49,860
I wouldn't caregiver for many family

2095
01:45:56,630 --> 01:45:53,310
members I had to swear anis that you

2096
01:45:58,100 --> 01:45:56,640
know the living experience of people who

2097
01:46:00,800 --> 01:45:58,110
can't even talk where didn't we know

2098
01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:00,810
they needed to descend over you know I

2099
01:46:07,490 --> 01:46:04,560
mean it was a definite ability when we

2100
01:46:09,830 --> 01:46:07,500
have overt and covert science but I tell

2101
01:46:12,050 --> 01:46:09,840
people what overt science there's a

2102
01:46:13,730 --> 01:46:12,060
corporate deep science and it's you

2103
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:13,740
notice or you stuff and keep it

2104
01:46:19,490 --> 01:46:16,290
controlled the cupboard science is where

2105
01:46:21,950 --> 01:46:19,500
the actual you know the study of all the

2106
01:46:23,540 --> 01:46:21,960
stuff is happening on a mass level to

2107
01:46:25,970 --> 01:46:23,550
try to tell us they're not studying this

2108
01:46:28,370 --> 01:46:25,980
stuff they surely are and they may have

2109
01:46:30,830 --> 01:46:28,380
been after what seemed chilling with you

2110
01:46:31,850 --> 01:46:30,840
can Johnston or reading about the

2111
01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:31,860
British Invasion

2112
01:46:37,030 --> 01:46:34,800
I think it's instances kind of a century

2113
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:37,040
the 20th earnings I mean the word

2114
01:46:41,690 --> 01:46:38,730
teleportation was invented by Charles

2115
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:41,700
work so that's way back so this doesn't

2116
01:46:45,740 --> 01:46:44,370
turn basket about and you know I'm

2117
01:46:48,170 --> 01:46:45,750
learning more and more this has been an

2118
01:46:50,750 --> 01:46:48,180
integrative experience and that's the

2119
01:46:52,790 --> 01:46:50,760
key it's not compartmentalized it's

2120
01:46:55,340 --> 01:46:52,800
integrated they are borderless connected

2121
01:46:56,930 --> 01:46:55,350
a lot of things because his materials

2122
01:46:59,840 --> 01:46:56,940
hide in with other people and they all

2123
01:47:01,490 --> 01:46:59,850
like how well but but he didn't like

2124
01:47:04,220 --> 01:47:01,500
that they didn't make to the general

2125
01:47:06,230 --> 01:47:04,230
public so this was later get it out

2126
01:47:09,620 --> 01:47:06,240
there and we're struggling it's hard

2127
01:47:12,110 --> 01:47:09,630
it's a hard time right now I think it's

2128
01:47:14,420 --> 01:47:12,120
a hard time now but it was also a hard

2129
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:14,430
time back then too as well things

2130
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:16,530
haven't changed a whole lot they've

2131
01:47:21,620 --> 01:47:18,330
gotten a little early a little worse but

2132
01:47:25,820 --> 01:47:21,630
let's let's explore this a little bit

2133
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:25,830
I'm very interested when you because you

2134
01:47:32,970 --> 01:47:29,610
were an experiencer the the et question

2135
01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:32,980
is easier for you to to digest

2136
01:47:40,140 --> 01:47:37,450
understand but as you got to get more

2137
01:47:44,340 --> 01:47:40,150
and more exposure of the beta group and

2138
01:47:47,100 --> 01:47:44,350
AR Borden what were you told what the

2139
01:47:51,750 --> 01:47:47,110
goals were for this group and and how

2140
01:47:54,090 --> 01:47:51,760
much of that were you prepared for um

2141
01:47:55,770 --> 01:47:54,100
well because I was what happened was I

2142
01:47:58,170 --> 01:47:55,780
opened myself to be prepared for

2143
01:47:59,490 --> 01:47:58,180
whatever from from my guides I call them

2144
01:48:02,010 --> 01:47:59,500
all guides and there was actually quite

2145
01:48:05,010 --> 01:48:02,020
a few different entities probably the

2146
01:48:07,229 --> 01:48:05,020
most dominant one for me was a I have a

2147
01:48:12,450 --> 01:48:07,239
Native American so I go back down

2148
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:12,460
bloodlines and my son that wasn't my

2149
01:48:18,030 --> 01:48:15,970
answer it was Anunnaki yeah that's like

2150
01:48:33,660 --> 01:48:18,040
you know when you make contact I wanted

2151
01:48:35,970 --> 01:48:33,670
to make contact with you know we called

2152
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:35,980
him and go do - and I had I was having

2153
01:48:41,940 --> 01:48:38,410
that experience as well starting in 2009

2154
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:41,950
and he began to lay out something to me

2155
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:45,370
about the Anunnaki they were was the

2156
01:48:48,150 --> 01:48:46,960
biggest thing for like the first thing

2157
01:48:50,970 --> 01:48:48,160
he said to me was that they were

2158
01:48:52,830 --> 01:48:50,980
factional and that's really important to

2159
01:48:54,750 --> 01:48:52,840
know that they're not exactly all on the

2160
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:54,760
same page to do any particular thing

2161
01:49:02,310 --> 01:48:57,850
what wait wait wait Karen stop right

2162
01:49:04,140 --> 01:49:02,320
there explain explain what you mean well

2163
01:49:05,970 --> 01:49:04,150
here I'll just tell you straight up what

2164
01:49:09,030 --> 01:49:05,980
he told me and there was the weirdest

2165
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:09,040
thing he said he said when I was 9 feet

2166
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:11,770
tall I didn't think very much as human

2167
01:49:17,310 --> 01:49:15,130
so when I was around feet tall I began

2168
01:49:19,170 --> 01:49:17,320
to interact with him and saw in them the

2169
01:49:21,870 --> 01:49:19,180
spark of the divine and I'm saying what

2170
01:49:25,410 --> 01:49:21,880
is this 9-foot things Wells's thing and

2171
01:49:27,450 --> 01:49:25,420
I I was watching Charlie call who was in

2172
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:27,460
contact with the Nellis Airforce all

2173
01:49:33,180 --> 01:49:29,890
right and he said that you know that

2174
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:33,190
they have a late onset or so onset

2175
01:49:37,890 --> 01:49:35,410
growth spurt what kind of attention

2176
01:49:39,450 --> 01:49:37,900
Marfan syndrome which probably would

2177
01:49:43,890 --> 01:49:39,460
have killed Abe Lincoln if you hadn't

2178
01:49:46,350 --> 01:49:43,900
been shot or Andre the Giant if they not

2179
01:49:46,910 --> 01:49:46,360
good for you because your height goes up

2180
01:49:50,060 --> 01:49:46,920
which are

2181
01:49:51,860 --> 01:49:50,070
not necessarily increased to handle

2182
01:49:54,260 --> 01:49:51,870
extra volume of blood and all those

2183
01:49:56,630 --> 01:49:54,270
things sure and that careless what he

2184
01:49:58,940 --> 01:49:56,640
had and what happened was he was

2185
01:50:01,370 --> 01:49:58,950
interacting with humans and he showed me

2186
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:01,380
some of the interactions and it was like

2187
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:04,290
that we repent or something at one you

2188
01:50:09,230 --> 01:50:06,090
know one group thinks for like Paris or

2189
01:50:11,930 --> 01:50:09,240
you know resources are biological robots

2190
01:50:14,810 --> 01:50:11,940
and they don't have no high esteem for

2191
01:50:17,150 --> 01:50:14,820
when Humanity is at its full core you

2192
01:50:20,750 --> 01:50:17,160
know however there's another group that

2193
01:50:23,690 --> 01:50:20,760
I'm recognize and in looking at this

2194
01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:23,700
aspect of us of our soul our spark of

2195
01:50:29,060 --> 01:50:27,360
the divine our ability to I guess

2196
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:29,070
Michael could tell the story of how it

2197
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:32,130
was we're advancing quite fast and their

2198
01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:33,930
little shots as they were moving back

2199
01:50:38,990 --> 01:50:37,110
around us and so yeah that was my basis

2200
01:50:42,260 --> 01:50:39,000
with all these contexts Frances I was

2201
01:50:43,940 --> 01:50:42,270
having and that scared me for being open

2202
01:50:46,100 --> 01:50:43,950
I think the biggest thing was okay let's

2203
01:50:49,220 --> 01:50:46,110
see what let's try this and fix an

2204
01:50:51,740 --> 01:50:49,230
interesting experiment to change the

2205
01:50:54,170 --> 01:50:51,750
trajectory in the Bureau is on explosion

2206
01:50:57,890 --> 01:50:54,180
course you know I was just I I think the

2207
01:51:01,070 --> 01:50:57,900
biggest thing for me is a ruinous to be

2208
01:51:06,710 --> 01:51:01,080
open and to learn that that was what

2209
01:51:12,260 --> 01:51:06,720
prepared me the most is the changing the

2210
01:51:15,020 --> 01:51:12,270
course of Nibiru from here on earth and

2211
01:51:17,440 --> 01:51:15,030
and you hear that kind of stuff from a

2212
01:51:21,170 --> 01:51:17,450
our board and look we're talking about

2213
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:21,180
fantastical you know far-out ideas here

2214
01:51:26,270 --> 01:51:24,930
but that was one of the goals of this

2215
01:51:28,490 --> 01:51:26,280
group wasn't it

2216
01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:28,500
what do you would he how do you react to

2217
01:51:38,090 --> 01:51:35,490
that challenge you like the whole thing

2218
01:51:40,790 --> 01:51:38,100
is I've got a better work through what

2219
01:51:44,480 --> 01:51:40,800
does that mean for me and that's complex

2220
01:51:48,380 --> 01:51:44,490
but I I think it's more attend to you

2221
01:51:50,780 --> 01:51:48,390
know it's about timeline I think I think

2222
01:51:52,940 --> 01:51:50,790
it's not about moving planets around and

2223
01:51:58,340 --> 01:51:52,950
you know so the planetary go active you

2224
01:52:00,810 --> 01:51:58,350
know you know redirecting and everything

2225
01:52:03,030 --> 01:52:00,820
it's not about matter and this is

2226
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:03,040
keep this whole background they are

2227
01:52:08,460 --> 01:52:05,530
burdened with a deal material physics

2228
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:08,470
there's a couple of books ebooks that

2229
01:52:12,990 --> 01:52:09,970
are available on that writings of

2230
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:13,000
airborne pieces that are you know you go

2231
01:52:16,830 --> 01:52:14,650
download them in the fall section and

2232
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:16,840
you start to realize that everything is

2233
01:52:22,730 --> 01:52:19,690
energy and thought things and thought

2234
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:22,740
form thee so now you're talking about

2235
01:52:32,550 --> 01:52:27,010
not moving material type things to think

2236
01:52:35,370 --> 01:52:32,560
in terms of changing the the ideation or

2237
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:35,380
data or underlying data or lucky think

2238
01:52:41,220 --> 01:52:37,930
in the hologram is I was talking about

2239
01:52:43,980 --> 01:52:41,230
Shrek over you know he's a he's with

2240
01:52:46,260 --> 01:52:43,990
constructs of mathematics there's a

2241
01:52:49,380 --> 01:52:46,270
whole bunch of mathematical things that

2242
01:52:53,370 --> 01:52:49,390
make him appear 3d and then when you put

2243
01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:53,380
him in his for the course him going into

2244
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:56,080
a mathematical concept hologram

2245
01:53:00,780 --> 01:52:58,960
environment and that's all information

2246
01:53:03,300 --> 01:53:00,790
so when you you know we thought was a

2247
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:03,310
big debate of courses as the basis of

2248
01:53:09,060 --> 01:53:06,370
our reality constant in an energetic or

2249
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:09,070
as particles well it's actually thought

2250
01:53:16,070 --> 01:53:12,690
it's actually ideation it's actually

2251
01:53:18,420 --> 01:53:16,080
frequency and so the numbers are

2252
01:53:20,250 --> 01:53:18,430
indicating frequency and michaelsen a

2253
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:20,260
great job talking about cymatics and

2254
01:53:24,780 --> 01:53:22,210
everything so it's a little bit you know

2255
01:53:27,900 --> 01:53:24,790
what I began to continue to study what

2256
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:27,910
what we will do it you know as we're

2257
01:53:33,330 --> 01:53:30,010
changing the ideas about it no we don't

2258
01:53:35,130 --> 01:53:33,340
want to have a good plan second or I

2259
01:53:38,460 --> 01:53:35,140
don't know anybody who wants that

2260
01:53:40,980 --> 01:53:38,470
does anybody also this inevitable that's

2261
01:53:42,300 --> 01:53:40,990
the will of God or something come on why

2262
01:53:44,490 --> 01:53:42,310
would you be this beautiful creation

2263
01:53:47,010 --> 01:53:44,500
since I haven't the etch-a-sketch

2264
01:53:50,220 --> 01:53:47,020
that doesn't work for me incredible and

2265
01:53:52,290 --> 01:53:50,230
now Karen of course I've just got a

2266
01:53:54,510 --> 01:53:52,300
couple of minutes and and before we get

2267
01:53:59,550 --> 01:53:54,520
to the end I want to take the time here

2268
01:54:01,950 --> 01:53:59,560
to say thank you and all of these files

2269
01:54:04,350 --> 01:54:01,960
are available for download you've been

2270
01:54:10,770 --> 01:54:04,360
assembling that over on the Facebook

2271
01:54:12,420 --> 01:54:10,780
page for linkage Institute yeah yeah

2272
01:54:14,140 --> 01:54:12,430
boarding just like if you got somebody

2273
01:54:16,330 --> 01:54:14,150
interested in

2274
01:54:17,979 --> 01:54:16,340
the files he had so what we kind of

2275
01:54:21,250 --> 01:54:17,989
realized after he passed it everybody

2276
01:54:23,890 --> 01:54:21,260
had a little different mixed file so I

2277
01:54:27,490 --> 01:54:23,900
am a myself and Charlotte put together

2278
01:54:30,450 --> 01:54:27,500
we riding him air board and it's not

2279
01:54:32,290 --> 01:54:30,460
just him it's also some of the other um

2280
01:54:35,229 --> 01:54:32,300
clandestine we don't know their real

2281
01:54:37,479 --> 01:54:35,239
name please insisted what's on it Indian

2282
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:37,489
material physics we just kind of put it

2283
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:40,010
all in there you know the linkages to

2284
01:54:44,229 --> 01:54:41,840
see thing has been kind of on the

2285
01:54:46,750 --> 01:54:44,239
garment side I think one one thing we

2286
01:54:48,910 --> 01:54:46,760
have to realize is that I don't know I

2287
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:48,920
don't think this girl here she is like

2288
01:54:53,260 --> 01:54:51,530
the president stands up and so you know

2289
01:54:54,850 --> 01:54:53,270
that's the hell eat the question is real

2290
01:54:57,010 --> 01:54:54,860
to tap of people when I believe them

2291
01:54:59,560 --> 01:54:57,020
it's an election year you know the point

2292
01:55:02,140 --> 01:54:59,570
I think that the disclosure it's more

2293
01:55:05,470 --> 01:55:02,150
like an unfold that within up and that's

2294
01:55:09,310 --> 01:55:05,480
for the accident to me so it's like when

2295
01:55:10,450 --> 01:55:09,320
we makes them like almost spiritual

2296
01:55:13,270 --> 01:55:10,460
agreements this we see other

2297
01:55:15,370 --> 01:55:13,280
collectively then we'll have a whole

2298
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:15,380
opening up of information and

2299
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:17,210
understanding that's waiting for us and

2300
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:20,330
as I've done for the research I I really

2301
01:55:26,020 --> 01:55:23,210
believe that one key component of that

2302
01:55:28,870 --> 01:55:26,030
is we absolutely have to make a commit a

2303
01:55:31,540 --> 01:55:28,880
commitment to take care of each other

2304
01:55:34,030 --> 01:55:31,550
advance evaluations don't have starving

2305
01:55:35,740 --> 01:55:34,040
children in the streets that was we're

2306
01:55:37,899 --> 01:55:35,750
very uncomfortable brought to my

2307
01:55:40,540 --> 01:55:37,909
attention of course I'm synthesis that

2308
01:55:42,100 --> 01:55:40,550
by it you see I had contact with and

2309
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:42,110
they asked me that wise when you let

2310
01:55:48,970 --> 01:55:44,239
that happen and I go I don't know why

2311
01:55:51,459 --> 01:55:48,980
for buying and also to agree to be kind

2312
01:55:55,290 --> 01:55:51,469
to the planet that we're on if we cannot

2313
01:55:57,939 --> 01:55:55,300
come to the most obvious agreement that

2314
01:56:00,760 --> 01:55:57,949
I think we're at risk of almost more

2315
01:56:03,419 --> 01:56:00,770
like included because because listen you

2316
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:03,429
begin a death spiral if you can't agree

2317
01:56:09,310 --> 01:56:06,170
that all life is precious that it's all

2318
01:56:10,990 --> 01:56:09,320
the diversity is beautiful and of course

2319
01:56:13,750 --> 01:56:11,000
sent and it's all you know all sequences

2320
01:56:15,820 --> 01:56:13,760
are valid in the sense so we've got

2321
01:56:18,430 --> 01:56:15,830
we're kind of at a crisis point a lot

2322
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:18,440
and then once we come to that

2323
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:21,770
realization I think an amazing golden

2324
01:56:25,180 --> 01:56:23,570
aviator askew knows enough for us but

2325
01:56:27,610 --> 01:56:25,190
but it's something we do have to choose

2326
01:56:28,089 --> 01:56:27,620
and so that's the crux of our situation

2327
01:56:30,700 --> 01:56:28,099
now

2328
01:56:35,290 --> 01:56:30,710
Karen thank you so much for taking the

2329
01:56:38,709 --> 01:56:35,300
time tonight and I'm watching Twitter

2330
01:56:42,209 --> 01:56:38,719
I'm watching my email where everybody's

2331
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:42,219
asking where to go and read a ours

2332
01:56:50,530 --> 01:56:46,130
writings and information and the linkage

2333
01:56:53,319 --> 01:56:50,540
Institute the easiest place is Facebook

2334
01:56:55,270 --> 01:56:53,329
and so we've got those links up right

2335
01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:55,280
now on Twitter

2336
01:57:00,160 --> 01:56:57,170
everybody can head over there after the

2337
01:57:02,020 --> 01:57:00,170
show tonight and I'm sure that there's

2338
01:57:04,839 --> 01:57:02,030
going to be a lot of file downloading

2339
01:57:07,089 --> 01:57:04,849
going on Karen thank you so much did you

2340
01:57:09,910 --> 01:57:07,099
ever get a chance to meet a Palladian or

2341
01:57:13,300 --> 01:57:09,920
are you are you cool with just hanging

2342
01:57:15,970 --> 01:57:13,310
out with the Annunaki now well I read a

2343
01:57:18,069 --> 01:57:15,980
book on Katy patrick.com called the

2344
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:18,079
Anunnaki and the Moon which combines my

2345
01:57:23,500 --> 01:57:20,690
Anunnaki experiences and understandings

2346
01:57:26,410 --> 01:57:23,510
with working with the archive and

2347
01:57:29,500 --> 01:57:26,420
information through Ken Johnson that's

2348
01:57:32,740 --> 01:57:29,510
free ebook you can download it and what

2349
01:57:34,750 --> 01:57:32,750
I just feel like well I've had a lot of

2350
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:34,760
contact experiences but they kind of

2351
01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:36,770
combined and like a Greek chorus and

2352
01:57:41,589 --> 01:57:38,960
call themselves all dives and they're

2353
01:57:43,870 --> 01:57:41,599
just continuing to show me what to look

2354
01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:43,880
at next

2355
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:46,639
thank you so much Karen and and enjoy

2356
01:57:50,500 --> 01:57:48,650
the rest of your evening and thank you

2357
01:57:54,010 --> 01:57:50,510
for taking the time tonight for us here

2358
01:57:55,510 --> 01:57:54,020
on veda block Michael

2359
01:57:59,770 --> 01:57:55,520
yeah Michael's been here the whole time

2360
01:58:01,479 --> 01:57:59,780
he didn't say Karen listening yeah Karen

2361
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:01,489
when was the last time you never heard

2362
01:58:13,959 --> 01:58:07,610
Michael say a word we're gonna need an

2363
01:58:15,250 --> 01:58:13,969
earther gate an economist conference be

2364
01:58:18,490 --> 01:58:15,260
the first time that Karen and I

2365
01:58:21,939 --> 01:58:18,500
eventually met in in person we're both

2366
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:21,949
speaking at this Stargate to the cosmos

2367
01:58:27,580 --> 01:58:25,010
in New Mexico next week so Karen I'm so

2368
01:58:33,490 --> 01:58:27,590
looking forward to getting the hang with

2369
01:58:36,129 --> 01:58:33,500
you I want to go you show up and we will

2370
01:58:38,530 --> 01:58:36,139
get you in and there's you know there's

2371
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:38,540
so many great people Michael tell injure

2372
01:58:43,810 --> 01:58:41,930
man the list goes on

2373
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:43,820
a four-day event if you want to come

2374
01:58:48,220 --> 01:58:45,890
just message me I will make that happen

2375
01:58:51,820 --> 01:58:48,230
oh man thank you for the invitation

2376
01:58:55,390 --> 01:58:51,830
Karen thank you so much yeah have a

2377
01:58:59,080 --> 01:58:55,400
great next that's Karen Christine

2378
01:59:00,820 --> 01:58:59,090
Patrick she is head of the linkage

2379
01:59:02,620 --> 01:59:00,830
Institute this is fade to black our

2380
01:59:05,290 --> 01:59:02,630
guest tonight Michael Lee Hill we're

2381
01:59:06,530 --> 01:59:05,300
gonna continue on next up is clay price

2382
01:59:11,479 --> 01:59:06,540
stay with us

2383
01:59:18,870 --> 01:59:11,489
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is a clay price and of course our guest

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tonight is Michael Lee Hill and I was

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just walking around the bunker here

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pulling guitars off the wall and some

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strands of woloson showing them off to

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the to the bunker cam Michael I don't

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02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:32,410
know if you were watching but sometimes

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02:04:35,790 --> 02:04:33,730
I just have to do that

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hey clay welcome to the program how are

2504
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:38,850
you hey man I'm good good to be here man

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02:04:44,460 --> 02:04:42,730
now we've got three guitar players that

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02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:44,470
are all ufologist right now on the show

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02:04:52,530 --> 02:04:47,050
together so what comes first right the

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02:04:56,760 --> 02:04:52,540
chicken or not we all need the champ so

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02:05:00,540 --> 02:04:56,770
there you go man I don't know where to

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02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:00,550
start with you clay but I kind of want

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02:05:06,810 --> 02:05:03,970
to go here with all of the talk about

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02:05:09,690 --> 02:05:06,820
the secret space program over the last

2513
02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:09,700
three four five years it's been pretty

2514
02:05:15,090 --> 02:05:12,370
insane inside of this community but to

2515
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:15,100
talk about a knowledge of the secret

2516
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:17,890
space program it goes back decades when

2517
02:05:24,300 --> 02:05:21,010
did you start to get involved well you

2518
02:05:26,850 --> 02:05:24,310
know I for the for just my perspective

2519
02:05:29,660 --> 02:05:26,860
as far as conversation goes like I

2520
02:05:35,130 --> 02:05:29,670
really am more of an experiencer and

2521
02:05:37,080 --> 02:05:35,140
also more of a not not so involved in

2522
02:05:39,630 --> 02:05:37,090
the UF ology and the space program and

2523
02:05:42,930 --> 02:05:39,640
things of that nature more on just human

2524
02:05:45,620 --> 02:05:42,940
development and our capabilities as a

2525
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:45,630
species along with a lot of the physics

2526
02:05:50,730 --> 02:05:48,610
to back it up so I was immersed in the

2527
02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:50,740
technical data but I was also a personal

2528
02:05:59,370 --> 02:05:56,050
experience or of the protocols that we

2529
02:06:01,500 --> 02:05:59,380
studied of which Michael and I studied

2530
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:01,510
along with Karen and PJ and Charlotte

2531
02:06:05,130 --> 02:06:03,010
and some other people that were in our

2532
02:06:07,380 --> 02:06:05,140
group so I was just had some very very

2533
02:06:10,740 --> 02:06:07,390
high sensitivities to Qi if you want to

2534
02:06:15,810 --> 02:06:10,750
call it that word and then a lot of

2535
02:06:16,770 --> 02:06:15,820
other personal experiences that happened

2536
02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:16,780
along the way

2537
02:06:20,940 --> 02:06:18,610
some things that I'm more intimately

2538
02:06:23,370 --> 02:06:20,950
familiar with and have a very in-depth

2539
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:23,380
knowledge of versus you know some of the

2540
02:06:31,620 --> 02:06:28,210
more aspects I can't speak of directly

2541
02:06:34,470 --> 02:06:31,630
right and and when you first got

2542
02:06:37,550 --> 02:06:34,480
involved with the group I'm assuming it

2543
02:06:42,090 --> 02:06:37,560
was the same timing as as everybody else

2544
02:06:44,610 --> 02:06:42,100
2009-2010 yeah yeah same timing I I came

2545
02:06:48,060 --> 02:06:44,620
across some of the WingMakers interviews

2546
02:06:50,510 --> 02:06:48,070
I had accidentally downloaded for your

2547
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:50,520
audience it was just a disseminated

2548
02:06:56,970 --> 02:06:54,210
article that had some interviews and

2549
02:06:59,310 --> 02:06:56,980
some of the physics were discussed in

2550
02:07:01,290 --> 02:06:59,320
that interview mm-hmm that were really

2551
02:07:02,430 --> 02:07:01,300
technical and very fascinating to me

2552
02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:02,440
right

2553
02:07:07,140 --> 02:07:06,130
and because the technicality was so

2554
02:07:09,150 --> 02:07:07,150
specific

2555
02:07:11,310 --> 02:07:09,160
it was very resonant to me and that made

2556
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:11,320
me want to research further I came

2557
02:07:17,580 --> 02:07:15,370
across a single forum that AR was was

2558
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:17,590
hosting that was kind of a closed forum

2559
02:07:23,010 --> 02:07:20,770
and he had some his some his partners

2560
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:23,020
that were helping run it and field

2561
02:07:29,970 --> 02:07:25,330
questions and I got in touch with one of

2562
02:07:33,300 --> 02:07:29,980
them and he kind of became somewhat of a

2563
02:07:34,980 --> 02:07:33,310
coach over time he's a he's he helped me

2564
02:07:36,570 --> 02:07:34,990
through some of the protocols meditation

2565
02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:36,580
protocols and as I started to have

2566
02:07:42,690 --> 02:07:39,250
experiences and became more sensitized

2567
02:07:44,670 --> 02:07:42,700
as I went along that was when I was

2568
02:07:46,770 --> 02:07:44,680
introduced to a are directly and we had

2569
02:07:49,170 --> 02:07:46,780
conversations via email and Skype about

2570
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:49,180
what it was I was experiencing and how

2571
02:07:56,370 --> 02:07:53,170
to kind of hone in on some of the

2572
02:08:01,140 --> 02:07:56,380
techniques essentially kind of quiet

2573
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:01,150
mind and but a lot of the information

2574
02:08:05,580 --> 02:08:02,890
was based when we talk about the et

2575
02:08:09,140 --> 02:08:05,590
agenda and stuff like that a lot of its

2576
02:08:13,830 --> 02:08:09,150
based on our own evolution as a human

2577
02:08:16,500 --> 02:08:13,840
collective and a lot of it's based on

2578
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:16,510
the fact that we live in a like Karen

2579
02:08:20,970 --> 02:08:18,610
was saying a very vibrational

2580
02:08:22,740 --> 02:08:20,980
environment that's non-local and all

2581
02:08:24,630 --> 02:08:22,750
that means is you know when PJ was

2582
02:08:26,970 --> 02:08:24,640
trying to explain to you how some of

2583
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:26,980
these meetings take place mm-hmm

2584
02:08:30,149 --> 02:08:28,810
they can take place in a non-local

2585
02:08:33,359 --> 02:08:30,159
environment all that

2586
02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:33,369
is space is kind of a loser II and so

2587
02:08:38,189 --> 02:08:36,610
with the right either technology or the

2588
02:08:42,290 --> 02:08:38,199
right right techniques in some cases

2589
02:08:44,879 --> 02:08:42,300
you're able to project parts of yourself

2590
02:08:47,750 --> 02:08:44,889
not in your physical body but you're

2591
02:08:52,290 --> 02:08:47,760
able to project parts of yourself and

2592
02:08:54,509 --> 02:08:52,300
groups can agree to do this at the same

2593
02:08:57,779 --> 02:08:54,519
time and they can actually meet and

2594
02:09:00,629 --> 02:08:57,789
different whatever you want to call it

2595
02:09:02,810 --> 02:09:00,639
dimensions whatever term you want to

2596
02:09:05,879 --> 02:09:02,820
keep but they could actually meet

2597
02:09:07,939 --> 02:09:05,889
non-locally in other dimensions and

2598
02:09:11,159 --> 02:09:07,949
exchange information between each other

2599
02:09:14,279 --> 02:09:11,169
and come back into physical body and

2600
02:09:16,589 --> 02:09:14,289
have novels of information exchange

2601
02:09:19,909 --> 02:09:16,599
without them having to physically speak

2602
02:09:21,719 --> 02:09:19,919
or read a book or anything like that

2603
02:09:24,479 --> 02:09:21,729
it's kind of like you can download

2604
02:09:27,299 --> 02:09:24,489
information to one another sure sure

2605
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:27,309
I play with with your background and

2606
02:09:31,799 --> 02:09:29,650
your knowledge of life in the world

2607
02:09:35,370 --> 02:09:31,809
around you and certainly the IDI

2608
02:09:38,969 --> 02:09:35,380
question with there is that time before

2609
02:09:41,339 --> 02:09:38,979
AR Borden were you know where you were

2610
02:09:43,919 --> 02:09:41,349
coming from and then as you're exposed

2611
02:09:46,229 --> 02:09:43,929
to the group and what the group's

2612
02:09:49,259 --> 02:09:46,239
intentions were and certainly this whole

2613
02:09:52,649 --> 02:09:49,269
locality nonlocality interdimensional

2614
02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:52,659
possibility binary were you know what I

2615
02:09:59,279 --> 02:09:56,050
mean on physical situation how did you

2616
02:10:05,459 --> 02:09:59,289
start to absorb that and and understand

2617
02:10:07,500 --> 02:10:05,469
it and and of course accept it well a

2618
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:07,510
lot of it had to do with like the

2619
02:10:11,279 --> 02:10:09,610
capabilities of human beings that was

2620
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:11,289
one of the reasons I'd call it like a

2621
02:10:16,580 --> 02:10:14,530
carrot on a stick it just basically

2622
02:10:21,270 --> 02:10:16,590
means like when you have remote viewing

2623
02:10:24,060 --> 02:10:21,280
a manifestation of a physical object you

2624
02:10:27,299 --> 02:10:24,070
can manipulation of matter those are all

2625
02:10:29,339 --> 02:10:27,309
tricks right there oh they're just their

2626
02:10:32,219 --> 02:10:29,349
capabilities that all human beings have

2627
02:10:34,890 --> 02:10:32,229
if they're at particular levels of an

2628
02:10:37,409 --> 02:10:34,900
evolutionary connection we all have

2629
02:10:41,429 --> 02:10:37,419
these abilities those abilities are just

2630
02:10:43,649 --> 02:10:41,439
symptoms of doing doing self work I

2631
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:43,659
guess you could say it so that's one of

2632
02:10:47,850 --> 02:10:43,930
the

2633
02:10:51,590 --> 02:10:47,860
why I was able to connect with part of

2634
02:10:53,610 --> 02:10:51,600
my studies were studying the trick so

2635
02:10:55,110 --> 02:10:53,620
once I had some remote viewing

2636
02:10:57,480 --> 02:10:55,120
experiences and I was able to

2637
02:11:00,900 --> 02:10:57,490
extrapolate hard data once I was able to

2638
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:00,910
have actual you know for a you can use a

2639
02:11:05,580 --> 02:11:03,010
term Kundalini or whatever you want to

2640
02:11:09,110 --> 02:11:05,590
use it but but essentially all human

2641
02:11:11,010 --> 02:11:09,120
beings have particular energetic

2642
02:11:12,870 --> 02:11:11,020
phenomenon that happened inside their

2643
02:11:15,660 --> 02:11:12,880
body most times it's ignored because

2644
02:11:18,660 --> 02:11:15,670
it's subtle but just like working out in

2645
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:18,670
a gym the more that you focus and on the

2646
02:11:23,700 --> 02:11:21,370
and the more you focus in on the

2647
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:23,710
meditations the protocols you sensitize

2648
02:11:31,730 --> 02:11:26,770
your body and your mind to that

2649
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:34,290
concrete it's something that you can use

2650
02:11:40,590 --> 02:11:38,050
in your everyday like life a lot of it

2651
02:11:43,110 --> 02:11:40,600
has to do with being an empathic Karen

2652
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:43,120
talked about her empathic training right

2653
02:11:47,190 --> 02:11:44,890
having a child that she had to take care

2654
02:11:48,900 --> 02:11:47,200
of that wasn't able to speak so she was

2655
02:11:51,210 --> 02:11:48,910
naturally attuned a lot of that those

2656
02:11:54,120 --> 02:11:51,220
abilities a lot of people that are

2657
02:11:56,280 --> 02:11:54,130
empathic they think when they take on

2658
02:11:58,320 --> 02:11:56,290
other people's emotional states that

2659
02:11:59,970 --> 02:11:58,330
it's their state so a lot of times

2660
02:12:02,850 --> 02:11:59,980
there's a lot of impacts that take

2661
02:12:04,590 --> 02:12:02,860
medication and become introverts or

2662
02:12:06,210 --> 02:12:04,600
agoraphobic because they don't leave

2663
02:12:10,100 --> 02:12:06,220
their house because when they leave they

2664
02:12:12,660 --> 02:12:10,110
start absorbing other people's energetic

2665
02:12:14,190 --> 02:12:12,670
dissonance like some people go to rock

2666
02:12:17,820 --> 02:12:14,200
concerts or people that hate going to

2667
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:17,830
parties or shopping or shop yeah

2668
02:12:23,220 --> 02:12:19,810
Christmas shopping is a nightmare for me

2669
02:12:25,190 --> 02:12:23,230
right right but so that once you're able

2670
02:12:28,740 --> 02:12:25,200
to establish like a healthy boundary

2671
02:12:31,650 --> 02:12:28,750
from what is you what's actually you and

2672
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:31,660
what is actually other people's

2673
02:12:37,140 --> 02:12:34,570
energetic phenomena then that's when

2674
02:12:40,050 --> 02:12:37,150
magic starts to happen because once you

2675
02:12:41,970 --> 02:12:40,060
can discern this is not my emotion at

2676
02:12:47,150 --> 02:12:41,980
somebody else's well now you're on the

2677
02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:47,160
the cusp of telepathy because all

2678
02:12:52,860 --> 02:12:49,690
feeling other people's feelings is just

2679
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:52,870
a broad energetic phenomena but when you

2680
02:12:57,660 --> 02:12:56,530
when you Zone in on that at a particular

2681
02:13:01,110 --> 02:12:57,670
level you start

2682
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:01,120
get real actual information from that so

2683
02:13:05,700 --> 02:13:03,610
not only do you feel somebody's anxiety

2684
02:13:07,500 --> 02:13:05,710
you feel the reason why they feel that

2685
02:13:10,260 --> 02:13:07,510
way I got to ask you man how do you

2686
02:13:12,750 --> 02:13:10,270
apply that to practicing the guitar no

2687
02:13:16,260 --> 02:13:12,760
I'm just kidding that that's a five-hour

2688
02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:16,270
answer oh dear Lord you know I'm a big

2689
02:13:19,650 --> 02:13:18,610
guy too by the way I love I love the

2690
02:13:23,270 --> 02:13:19,660
music you've been playing the guitar

2691
02:13:26,790 --> 02:13:23,280
guitar stuff that's that's doug aldrich

2692
02:13:29,490 --> 02:13:26,800
okay you know Doug that's his album

2693
02:13:32,070 --> 02:13:29,500
electro vision and I helped I helped

2694
02:13:34,890 --> 02:13:32,080
work on that album with him it's and but

2695
02:13:38,400 --> 02:13:34,900
anyway enough of that I I can go right

2696
02:13:40,439 --> 02:13:38,410
there and you've you know and trust me

2697
02:13:43,590 --> 02:13:40,449
you need to steer me off of the guitar

2698
02:13:46,770 --> 02:13:43,600
so let's well let me but but clay but

2699
02:13:49,560 --> 02:13:46,780
the important question here is as you

2700
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:49,570
were brought into the group and now

2701
02:13:54,689 --> 02:13:52,330
you're introduced to AR what was your

2702
02:13:58,350 --> 02:13:54,699
function what was your gig in the group

2703
02:14:01,590 --> 02:13:58,360
my function was to establish meditation

2704
02:14:03,990 --> 02:14:01,600
protocols and sensitize myself to some

2705
02:14:05,700 --> 02:14:04,000
of these capabilities that all human

2706
02:14:08,060 --> 02:14:05,710
beings have so I was put in a control

2707
02:14:11,550 --> 02:14:08,070
group and then at some point I became a

2708
02:14:13,910 --> 02:14:11,560
technical whatever you could call it a

2709
02:14:16,320 --> 02:14:13,920
technical papers form we had

2710
02:14:18,419 --> 02:14:16,330
conversations about you know some of the

2711
02:14:20,700 --> 02:14:18,429
linkage Institute stuff and and we had

2712
02:14:22,140 --> 02:14:20,710
engagement meetings this is something

2713
02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:22,150
that all the people that you know have

2714
02:14:27,180 --> 02:14:24,370
been on the call or familiar with or we

2715
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:27,190
actually had interfacing exercises with

2716
02:14:30,660 --> 02:14:28,810
Anunnaki

2717
02:14:32,820 --> 02:14:30,670
the reason it's something that's very

2718
02:14:34,470 --> 02:14:32,830
difficult to articulate on a on a radio

2719
02:14:36,930 --> 02:14:34,480
show is because something that's so

2720
02:14:40,020 --> 02:14:36,940
intimate and personal is very difficult

2721
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:40,030
to share and articulate so it's like

2722
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:43,530
having a very deep intimate loving

2723
02:14:50,160 --> 02:14:47,530
glance from your wife and you feel it

2724
02:14:51,870 --> 02:14:50,170
you know it's there information is

2725
02:14:55,050 --> 02:14:51,880
exchanged but it's not something you can

2726
02:14:58,709 --> 02:14:55,060
articulate very well on a radio show so

2727
02:15:00,900 --> 02:14:58,719
that type of information those types of

2728
02:15:03,540 --> 02:15:00,910
experiences I've had but it's not

2729
02:15:06,479 --> 02:15:03,550
something that's extremely easy to

2730
02:15:08,580 --> 02:15:06,489
extrapolate on Chum in some way shape or

2731
02:15:10,890 --> 02:15:08,590
form but that was part of my duty was to

2732
02:15:11,550 --> 02:15:10,900
have these interfacing exercises and

2733
02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:11,560
also to go

2734
02:15:14,820 --> 02:15:12,610
through some of these meditation

2735
02:15:17,070 --> 02:15:14,830
protocols of which when I started having

2736
02:15:21,030 --> 02:15:17,080
some of these energetic phenomena that's

2737
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:21,040
when it became very real and known to me

2738
02:15:24,860 --> 02:15:22,960
I wasn't reading any books anymore

2739
02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:24,870
I was housing I was having personal

2740
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:29,290
experiences daily and not something that

2741
02:15:33,480 --> 02:15:31,450
you can really share or exchange with

2742
02:15:36,090 --> 02:15:33,490
another human being unless they've been

2743
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:36,100
exposed to it and so part of my job was

2744
02:15:42,270 --> 02:15:39,210
to learn and then also have engagement

2745
02:15:44,940 --> 02:15:42,280
emails asking well this has occurred

2746
02:15:47,160 --> 02:15:44,950
these flashes of a you know why is why

2747
02:15:48,810 --> 02:15:47,170
are my feet numb you know stuff like

2748
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:48,820
that and then I had a coach that would

2749
02:15:54,750 --> 02:15:52,090
say don't stop that's part of your body

2750
02:15:58,530 --> 02:15:54,760
acquiescing acclimating you know you're

2751
02:16:00,440 --> 02:15:58,540
having flashes in your mind's eye while

2752
02:16:03,270 --> 02:16:00,450
you're walking down the street because

2753
02:16:06,230 --> 02:16:03,280
you have trauma built up in your neck or

2754
02:16:09,510 --> 02:16:06,240
something and largely in part because

2755
02:16:11,700 --> 02:16:09,520
the the reason human beings have not

2756
02:16:14,180 --> 02:16:11,710
evolved in in the degree is because

2757
02:16:17,550 --> 02:16:14,190
we've been so heavily traumatized and

2758
02:16:21,210 --> 02:16:17,560
belief systems and trauma are part of

2759
02:16:22,680 --> 02:16:21,220
the reasons why we don't have access to

2760
02:16:25,650 --> 02:16:22,690
a lot of higher dimensional information

2761
02:16:27,170 --> 02:16:25,660
right it's been trained out of us but

2762
02:16:30,060 --> 02:16:27,180
when you go through some of these

2763
02:16:32,550 --> 02:16:30,070
meditation protocols that are no secret

2764
02:16:34,950 --> 02:16:32,560
anybody and everybody it's just a matter

2765
02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:34,960
of time and you just have to take the

2766
02:16:39,360 --> 02:16:36,690
time to do it for longer periods of time

2767
02:16:41,669 --> 02:16:39,370
you start to push energy builds up in

2768
02:16:44,700 --> 02:16:41,679
the body and then the body cells let's

2769
02:16:46,919 --> 02:16:44,710
start to push on where these traumas

2770
02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:46,929
have physically embedded themselves into

2771
02:16:52,560 --> 02:16:49,090
the human body and what happens over

2772
02:16:56,220 --> 02:16:52,570
times you start to purge and when you

2773
02:16:58,440 --> 02:16:56,230
purge essentially you're leaving room to

2774
02:17:00,750 --> 02:16:58,450
your central nervous system has these

2775
02:17:02,970 --> 02:17:00,760
dormant pathways that are open when

2776
02:17:06,690 --> 02:17:02,980
you're born they become dormant and

2777
02:17:08,940 --> 02:17:06,700
unused as you get older and then once

2778
02:17:11,070 --> 02:17:08,950
you start pushing on some of these areas

2779
02:17:14,760 --> 02:17:11,080
and clearing them then you start to have

2780
02:17:16,860 --> 02:17:14,770
more sensitivities that are more

2781
02:17:18,990 --> 02:17:16,870
noticeably as like what people would use

2782
02:17:21,089 --> 02:17:19,000
as like an empath or a clear audio or a

2783
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:21,099
clairvoyant all it is is just

2784
02:17:25,500 --> 02:17:24,250
information that's always been there but

2785
02:17:27,419 --> 02:17:25,510
essentially it's been

2786
02:17:29,099 --> 02:17:27,429
trained out of you to pay attention to

2787
02:17:31,530 --> 02:17:29,109
it so that was that's part of my job

2788
02:17:33,330 --> 02:17:31,540
well and and I want to bring you

2789
02:17:35,790 --> 02:17:33,340
obviously I want to bring you back on

2790
02:17:37,950 --> 02:17:35,800
the show at a later date where we can

2791
02:17:40,230 --> 02:17:37,960
actually spend some time discussing this

2792
02:17:41,910 --> 02:17:40,240
because it's a it's a very important

2793
02:17:44,639 --> 02:17:41,920
subject and just like you said it you

2794
02:17:47,669 --> 02:17:44,649
just can't extrapolate what's really

2795
02:17:49,620 --> 02:17:47,679
going on in a brief context you just

2796
02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:49,630
like we have to spend the time to do

2797
02:17:54,570 --> 02:17:52,000
that and the invitation is there right

2798
02:17:57,929 --> 02:17:54,580
now but let me let me go back to a

2799
02:18:01,679 --> 02:17:57,939
comment that you made mister empath

2800
02:18:03,540 --> 02:18:01,689
earlier but let's back up for a second

2801
02:18:06,120 --> 02:18:03,550
you said that there was a moment of

2802
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:06,130
clarity for you as you were going

2803
02:18:11,219 --> 02:18:09,010
through these exercise where I'm gonna

2804
02:18:14,669 --> 02:18:11,229
paraphrase you had like a holy crap

2805
02:18:17,070 --> 02:18:14,679
moment this is actually real and you had

2806
02:18:23,669 --> 02:18:17,080
to deal with that share with us what

2807
02:18:30,030 --> 02:18:23,679
that moment was well like first of all

2808
02:18:32,459 --> 02:18:30,040
Michael what's up man I'm just amazed

2809
02:18:34,019 --> 02:18:32,469
it's so cool just to be able to sit back

2810
02:18:37,049 --> 02:18:34,029
and listen to you guys and part your

2811
02:18:43,349 --> 02:18:37,059
wisdom I I'm just like a proud team

2812
02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:43,359
member over here yeah Jimmy I want to

2813
02:18:47,429 --> 02:18:45,490
tell you when I went to AR and said the

2814
02:18:49,709 --> 02:18:47,439
Anunnaki are guiding me into that were

2815
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:49,719
not tuned properly that a shouldn't be

2816
02:18:57,089 --> 02:18:53,050
440 it should be 432 I had no idea what

2817
02:19:00,570 --> 02:18:57,099
the hell was being brought to me and so

2818
02:19:02,309 --> 02:19:00,580
I went to AR and I said hey are what why

2819
02:19:05,580 --> 02:19:02,319
am I being like they're telling me we're

2820
02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:05,590
not tuned properly um what's that about

2821
02:19:11,790 --> 02:19:07,210
he goes oh well let me introduce you to

2822
02:19:16,080 --> 02:19:11,800
clay price so you know he started this

2823
02:19:18,030 --> 02:19:16,090
this road and Deauville talked about it

2824
02:19:20,669 --> 02:19:18,040
after the show but that whole subject

2825
02:19:22,379 --> 02:19:20,679
his lead I told you Jimmy with Richard

2826
02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:22,389
Hoagland saying they found out that the

2827
02:19:27,389 --> 02:19:24,370
whole processional cycle is encoding for

2828
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:27,399
32 frequencies and that truly it is the

2829
02:19:33,000 --> 02:19:30,160
frequency while 432 squared becomes

2830
02:19:35,639 --> 02:19:33,010
light which is C times mass equals

2831
02:19:38,400 --> 02:19:35,649
energy right you know instead of running

2832
02:19:39,050 --> 02:19:38,410
a equals MC squared backwards it's 432

2833
02:19:45,860 --> 02:19:39,060
square

2834
02:19:47,420 --> 02:19:45,870
energy so us thank you so much for

2835
02:19:49,911 --> 02:19:47,430
joining us and thank you for being there

2836
02:19:51,860 --> 02:19:49,921
as a mentor to me

2837
02:19:53,150 --> 02:19:51,870
one of the first things you said to me

2838
02:19:55,031 --> 02:19:53,160
is like I don't even know how you guys

2839
02:20:00,890 --> 02:19:55,041
can tune your guitars if you're too de

2840
02:20:02,680 --> 02:20:00,900
equals 440 now I know what you're

2841
02:20:05,150 --> 02:20:02,690
talking about

2842
02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:05,160
and to get back to your question I

2843
02:20:08,991 --> 02:20:06,450
didn't want to I know we kind of got off

2844
02:20:11,180 --> 02:20:09,001
subject real quick guitar man guitar

2845
02:20:16,820 --> 02:20:11,190
will do it every time play you do okay

2846
02:20:18,890 --> 02:20:16,830
so I know Davey D yeah yeah we can get

2847
02:20:22,430 --> 02:20:18,900
in that if you want to but but you asked

2848
02:20:25,041 --> 02:20:22,440
that my aha moments yes and and in part

2849
02:20:28,970 --> 02:20:25,051
I'll give you the more of a dynamic or

2850
02:20:32,661 --> 02:20:28,980
like more the the sexy experiences if

2851
02:20:37,131 --> 02:20:32,671
you will the bass bass basically have to

2852
02:20:41,110 --> 02:20:37,141
do with there are some exercises that

2853
02:20:45,081 --> 02:20:41,120
have to do with with an inducing a

2854
02:20:50,031 --> 02:20:45,091
Kundalini experience and in a meditation

2855
02:20:52,310 --> 02:20:50,041
if you haven't a charge like the the

2856
02:20:54,951 --> 02:20:52,320
body cells there's different types of

2857
02:20:59,211 --> 02:20:54,961
Chi in the body so it went and they're

2858
02:21:01,100 --> 02:20:59,221
polarized so when you do long terms of

2859
02:21:03,291 --> 02:21:01,110
meditation you actually start to finally

2860
02:21:05,810 --> 02:21:03,301
balance out the body system they

2861
02:21:08,541 --> 02:21:05,820
manifest in the body is that kind of an

2862
02:21:10,220 --> 02:21:08,551
acidic environment of the body an

2863
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:10,230
alkaline body even but they're really

2864
02:21:14,900 --> 02:21:12,450
negative and and positive charges in the

2865
02:21:16,430 --> 02:21:14,910
environment between and also the food

2866
02:21:19,520 --> 02:21:16,440
that you consume and the air that you

2867
02:21:21,051 --> 02:21:19,530
breathe but like that was one of my aha

2868
02:21:23,350 --> 02:21:21,061
moments was basically going through an

2869
02:21:26,421 --> 02:21:23,360
exercise and having this experience

2870
02:21:31,251 --> 02:21:26,431
explode through my body system and it

2871
02:21:32,781 --> 02:21:31,261
and it was a huge purging experience as

2872
02:21:34,371 --> 02:21:32,791
well so you know you don't just have

2873
02:21:36,890 --> 02:21:34,381
this experience but you sit there and

2874
02:21:40,421 --> 02:21:36,900
cry for 20 minutes like a baby

2875
02:21:43,070 --> 02:21:40,431
because it's it's pushed a lot of this

2876
02:21:47,211 --> 02:21:43,080
blockage out of the way which which are

2877
02:21:48,831 --> 02:21:47,221
usually embedded by trauma you know and

2878
02:21:53,030 --> 02:21:48,841
we have it physically embedded and are

2879
02:21:54,980 --> 02:21:53,040
all throughout our body system so when

2880
02:21:56,990 --> 02:21:54,990
when one of those blockages came undone

2881
02:21:58,550 --> 02:21:57,000
that was one of my aha moments I was

2882
02:22:00,349 --> 02:21:58,560
just like holy I'm sorry if I

2883
02:22:05,179 --> 02:22:00,359
concur sorry I didn't mean to but yeah

2884
02:22:08,530 --> 02:22:05,189
it this is this is in fact real and we

2885
02:22:11,360 --> 02:22:08,540
all have this ability so and it was also

2886
02:22:13,639 --> 02:22:11,370
not to get on a huge rant but it also

2887
02:22:18,340 --> 02:22:13,649
has it was for me it was an epiphany

2888
02:22:21,160 --> 02:22:18,350
about how religions function because

2889
02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:21,170
when you know you have the ability to

2890
02:22:27,110 --> 02:22:24,930
unconditionally love yourself not to get

2891
02:22:30,139 --> 02:22:27,120
a little too deep but that that

2892
02:22:33,139 --> 02:22:30,149
unconditional love is is scientifically

2893
02:22:35,450 --> 02:22:33,149
viable and there's a whole there's tons

2894
02:22:37,670 --> 02:22:35,460
of physics when you use a lot like when

2895
02:22:40,670 --> 02:22:37,680
Michael talks about 4:32 and you hear

2896
02:22:42,800 --> 02:22:40,680
about Phi and being fractal and stuff

2897
02:22:45,710 --> 02:22:42,810
like that and the New Age kind of lingo

2898
02:22:48,080 --> 02:22:45,720
right it's it's also defined as love and

2899
02:22:50,120 --> 02:22:48,090
so when you have deep love and

2900
02:22:53,929 --> 02:22:50,130
compassion for yourself your aura

2901
02:22:56,360 --> 02:22:53,939
actually implodes more efficiently and

2902
02:22:59,750 --> 02:22:56,370
the more auric implosion you have in

2903
02:23:01,370 --> 02:22:59,760
your cells and in your body you actually

2904
02:23:03,740 --> 02:23:01,380
start to garner more energy and

2905
02:23:04,160 --> 02:23:03,750
information starts to come into your

2906
02:23:05,929 --> 02:23:04,170
body

2907
02:23:07,910 --> 02:23:05,939
that's deciphered by your central

2908
02:23:09,889 --> 02:23:07,920
nervous system goes up into your right

2909
02:23:12,260 --> 02:23:09,899
brain hemisphere hemisphere and you

2910
02:23:16,340 --> 02:23:12,270
start to experience that as just alts of

2911
02:23:17,960 --> 02:23:16,350
insight inspired bursts information from

2912
02:23:19,639 --> 02:23:17,970
other human beings when they don't speak

2913
02:23:20,990 --> 02:23:19,649
to you you know telepathy or whatever

2914
02:23:23,210 --> 02:23:21,000
you want to call it downloads of

2915
02:23:27,230 --> 02:23:23,220
information the central nervous system

2916
02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:27,240
once it becomes under meant is in part

2917
02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:29,130
what starts to relay that information to

2918
02:23:32,480 --> 02:23:30,810
your your right brain hemisphere so

2919
02:23:37,160 --> 02:23:32,490
that's that's some of the stuff that a

2920
02:23:39,290 --> 02:23:37,170
nr8 are born and I discussed and then

2921
02:23:41,240 --> 02:23:39,300
also some of the stuff that one of the

2922
02:23:43,490 --> 02:23:41,250
guys I worked with as a trainer he was

2923
02:23:46,370 --> 02:23:43,500
kind of my coach we went through that as

2924
02:23:52,130 --> 02:23:46,380
well he had been physically initiated

2925
02:23:53,450 --> 02:23:52,140
into some some esoteric orders and so

2926
02:23:56,650 --> 02:23:53,460
that's also some of the training that

2927
02:23:59,840 --> 02:23:56,660
they do it's it's it's very much like

2928
02:24:01,969 --> 02:23:59,850
you have to acquiesce to the

2929
02:24:04,040 --> 02:24:01,979
capabilities and the environment you

2930
02:24:05,219 --> 02:24:04,050
can't just you would literally die if

2931
02:24:07,739 --> 02:24:05,229
you were discriminated

2932
02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:07,749
yes yeah and how do you see this is the

2933
02:24:11,099 --> 02:24:08,890
thing and clay

2934
02:24:13,950 --> 02:24:11,109
I got a thank you right now I've just

2935
02:24:15,800 --> 02:24:13,960
got a few minutes left and probably the

2936
02:24:18,960 --> 02:24:15,810
most important question at this point

2937
02:24:21,359 --> 02:24:18,970
certainly is just like you just said you

2938
02:24:24,779 --> 02:24:21,369
could how do you control it how did you

2939
02:24:27,719 --> 02:24:24,789
learn to control this because once it's

2940
02:24:31,229 --> 02:24:27,729
Unleashed well you've got to you got to

2941
02:24:32,609 --> 02:24:31,239
reel it back in too as well um well you

2942
02:24:35,510 --> 02:24:32,619
can get a little deep but it's not like

2943
02:24:39,450 --> 02:24:35,520
really controlling it it's the fact that

2944
02:24:42,750 --> 02:24:39,460
there are actually mmm there are

2945
02:24:44,849 --> 02:24:42,760
actually monitors on the earth and when

2946
02:24:46,739 --> 02:24:44,859
I say monitors I mean whatever you want

2947
02:24:49,979 --> 02:24:46,749
to call it ET monitors government

2948
02:24:54,210 --> 02:24:49,989
monitors that actually monitor for this

2949
02:24:56,099 --> 02:24:54,220
type of phenomenon in like globally so

2950
02:24:58,649 --> 02:24:56,109
state when they actually will track

2951
02:25:00,420 --> 02:24:58,659
people that have had these phenomena

2952
02:25:02,149 --> 02:25:00,430
that have had either been struck by

2953
02:25:04,620 --> 02:25:02,159
lightning or they've had these as

2954
02:25:07,830 --> 02:25:04,630
children you know people that a lot of

2955
02:25:10,349 --> 02:25:07,840
times kids have have experiences they

2956
02:25:13,380 --> 02:25:10,359
don't know how to explain but but if

2957
02:25:15,599 --> 02:25:13,390
it's not trained out of them if it's

2958
02:25:18,149 --> 02:25:15,609
induced or encouraged or fomented by

2959
02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:18,159
their parents right over time that can

2960
02:25:24,300 --> 02:25:20,319
actually be a huge problem for

2961
02:25:25,439 --> 02:25:24,310
controlling interests when you get

2962
02:25:27,660 --> 02:25:25,449
because it's contagious

2963
02:25:29,160 --> 02:25:27,670
and that's something Michael and I Karen

2964
02:25:31,200 --> 02:25:29,170
also talked about but a are really

2965
02:25:33,210 --> 02:25:31,210
preached but he was trying to help us

2966
02:25:36,179 --> 02:25:33,220
foment these abilities and also foment

2967
02:25:38,069 --> 02:25:36,189
the the technical knowledge that we

2968
02:25:40,939 --> 02:25:38,079
could relate to other people but it's

2969
02:25:44,519 --> 02:25:40,949
also dangerous in the sense that

2970
02:25:46,080 --> 02:25:44,529
controlling it all of our governmental

2971
02:25:48,269 --> 02:25:46,090
systems economic systems financial

2972
02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:48,279
systems are all based on a particular

2973
02:25:53,010 --> 02:25:49,810
set of belief systems and as soon as

2974
02:25:55,979 --> 02:25:53,020
those systems don't apply to human

2975
02:25:58,639 --> 02:25:55,989
beings anymore then if for periods for

2976
02:26:00,660 --> 02:25:58,649
short periods of time you'd have chaos

2977
02:26:04,580 --> 02:26:00,670
especially if people that have these

2978
02:26:07,559 --> 02:26:04,590
abilities don't have the moral fortitude

2979
02:26:09,989 --> 02:26:07,569
to act in a society the way that they

2980
02:26:11,790 --> 02:26:09,999
normally should right because this is a

2981
02:26:13,529 --> 02:26:11,800
tool it's like a hammer where you can

2982
02:26:16,469 --> 02:26:13,539
use this in any way shape or form that

2983
02:26:17,460 --> 02:26:16,479
you want and that's why not I know you

2984
02:26:19,140 --> 02:26:17,470
had a break but like

2985
02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:19,150
Illuminati also have you know

2986
02:26:23,461 --> 02:26:21,370
negative factions have these abilities

2987
02:26:26,430 --> 02:26:23,471
they've induced in themselves they just

2988
02:26:28,410 --> 02:26:26,440
use them for nefarious reasons other

2989
02:26:30,690 --> 02:26:28,420
than to help humanity so it's just a

2990
02:26:32,671 --> 02:26:30,700
tool that every human being has is

2991
02:26:34,950 --> 02:26:32,681
assuming you remove a lot of the trauma

2992
02:26:38,011 --> 02:26:34,960
and belief systems that's one of the

2993
02:26:39,390 --> 02:26:38,021
reasons so I'm not like wide open you

2994
02:26:41,791 --> 02:26:39,400
know I'm here in the world like

2995
02:26:44,220 --> 02:26:41,801
everybody else I have my glimpses that's

2996
02:26:46,921 --> 02:26:44,230
what I call them and those glimpses are

2997
02:26:48,360 --> 02:26:46,931
that are what kind of keep me sane I

2998
02:26:52,680 --> 02:26:48,370
guess you could say oh wait a minute

2999
02:26:55,261 --> 02:26:52,690
we're not actually occurring

3000
02:26:56,761 --> 02:26:55,271
sad reality that we're in okay Karen

3001
02:26:58,171 --> 02:26:56,771
just tweeted you don't have to comment

3002
02:27:02,220 --> 02:26:58,181
but she goes he's talking about the

3003
02:27:04,501 --> 02:27:02,230
psychic sentinels that's which she she

3004
02:27:10,470 --> 02:27:04,511
she cannot help herself a jump into the

3005
02:27:13,860 --> 02:27:10,480
conversation she is she is one last

3006
02:27:17,280 --> 02:27:13,870
question and when we're talking about AR

3007
02:27:19,501 --> 02:27:17,290
and and the group and and some of the

3008
02:27:21,841 --> 02:27:19,511
languages here there are some out there

3009
02:27:25,950 --> 02:27:21,851
clay and I know you've heard this that

3010
02:27:28,921 --> 02:27:25,960
would say this is borderline cultish how

3011
02:27:32,610 --> 02:27:28,931
did you respond to that well is gravity

3012
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:32,620
a cult could be because gravity just is

3013
02:27:37,650 --> 02:27:35,290
this is just something that we are and

3014
02:27:40,860 --> 02:27:37,660
it's a natural very natural state for us

3015
02:27:44,310 --> 02:27:40,870
so this is just one group that decided

3016
02:27:46,410 --> 02:27:44,320
to get together in a secret way and and

3017
02:27:49,440 --> 02:27:46,420
try to help foment some of the abilities

3018
02:27:52,711 --> 02:27:49,450
but there's no there's no religious

3019
02:27:54,390 --> 02:27:52,721
angle or giving your power away angle as

3020
02:27:55,950 --> 02:27:54,400
there usually are in religious or

3021
02:27:58,831 --> 02:27:55,960
cultures groups right

3022
02:28:00,660 --> 02:27:58,841
where were the empowered ones and we've

3023
02:28:03,180 --> 02:28:00,670
been given just a little bit more

3024
02:28:05,160 --> 02:28:03,190
assistance and encouragement to develop

3025
02:28:08,190 --> 02:28:05,170
some of the abilities that that we all

3026
02:28:10,501 --> 02:28:08,200
naturally have the only danger is if it

3027
02:28:12,900 --> 02:28:10,511
happens too fast a lot of times what

3028
02:28:14,881 --> 02:28:12,910
will happen is you'll disappear or

3029
02:28:17,421 --> 02:28:14,891
something will you'll be in a car wreck

3030
02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:17,431
or something will happen to shut down

3031
02:28:23,270 --> 02:28:20,170
sharing of that type of information most

3032
02:28:26,371 --> 02:28:23,280
people are not ready for this and so

3033
02:28:28,860 --> 02:28:26,381
that's why groups like us had together

3034
02:28:30,990 --> 02:28:28,870
and get together to encourage each other

3035
02:28:32,729 --> 02:28:31,000
and kind of give each other love because

3036
02:28:35,219 --> 02:28:32,739
we're all spread all over the place

3037
02:28:36,510 --> 02:28:35,229
and there's nobody else to talk to about

3038
02:28:39,479 --> 02:28:36,520
this stuff as soon as you have a

3039
02:28:41,519 --> 02:28:39,489
particular experience one last one last

3040
02:28:44,189 --> 02:28:41,529
question play what's your mood what's

3041
02:28:49,860 --> 02:28:44,199
your main axe my main axe I just bought

3042
02:28:52,530 --> 02:28:49,870
is a sewer Classic Pro and I told

3043
02:28:54,540 --> 02:28:52,540
Michael I'm working I were playing a

3044
02:28:59,790 --> 02:28:54,550
wedding band so this past weekend I

3045
02:29:01,800 --> 02:28:59,800
played in crap played in Virginia camera

3046
02:29:05,960 --> 02:29:01,810
Chesterfield Virginia Friday night or

3047
02:29:08,160 --> 02:29:05,970
Saturday and then Sunday played in short

3048
02:29:10,590 --> 02:29:08,170
Charleston South Carolina for two

3049
02:29:13,860 --> 02:29:10,600
different weddings and I love this

3050
02:29:16,469 --> 02:29:13,870
guitar man it's awesome right man nice

3051
02:29:20,700 --> 02:29:16,479
wait I play I play a Kemper a profiler

3052
02:29:23,370 --> 02:29:20,710
by the way oh those hey I wish I could

3053
02:29:27,210 --> 02:29:23,380
afford one that's which one do you have

3054
02:29:29,280 --> 02:29:27,220
I have the the toaster and I bought it

3055
02:29:32,070 --> 02:29:29,290
from a dude in Canada and he gave me a

3056
02:29:34,620 --> 02:29:32,080
he bought a ton of those Michael Britt

3057
02:29:38,070 --> 02:29:34,630
profiles and dumble amp profiles and all

3058
02:29:40,170 --> 02:29:38,080
kinds of stuff so I use that and then a

3059
02:29:41,700 --> 02:29:40,180
music studio guy that runs a studio here

3060
02:29:44,729 --> 02:29:41,710
bought a camper and we've been a swamp

3061
02:29:47,700 --> 02:29:44,739
in profiles but man it is just for live

3062
02:29:51,150 --> 02:29:47,710
gigs and studio I mean it's just a again

3063
02:29:53,610 --> 02:29:51,160
and play man do you even have a cabinet

3064
02:29:57,150 --> 02:29:53,620
or do you go straight to the PA well

3065
02:30:00,300 --> 02:29:57,160
both I actually have an atomic CLR it's

3066
02:30:03,450 --> 02:30:00,310
a flat frequency response monitor that I

3067
02:30:06,660 --> 02:30:03,460
use for stage and then I have a sewer

3068
02:30:08,389 --> 02:30:06,670
Wireless G LD c l XD system so I can run

3069
02:30:11,490 --> 02:30:08,399
around and play solos on the dance floor

3070
02:30:13,679 --> 02:30:11,500
which is awesome but yeah but I go

3071
02:30:16,950 --> 02:30:13,689
straight in the board yeah that's it's

3072
02:30:19,860 --> 02:30:16,960
amazing how that sounds today I mean

3073
02:30:22,580 --> 02:30:19,870
they it it wasn't that way 15 years ago

3074
02:30:26,340 --> 02:30:22,590
but now it is getting really really good

3075
02:30:29,939 --> 02:30:26,350
yeah John Mayer says they're scary it's

3076
02:30:31,530 --> 02:30:29,949
really that good it's no joke clay I've

3077
02:30:34,019 --> 02:30:31,540
got to get you back on the show I'll

3078
02:30:37,500 --> 02:30:34,029
reach out to you about that and we'll do

3079
02:30:39,330 --> 02:30:37,510
a full show together and I really look

3080
02:30:41,550 --> 02:30:39,340
forward to it thank you see I love to

3081
02:30:43,019 --> 02:30:41,560
yeah and Michael a pleasure I hope we

3082
02:30:45,150 --> 02:30:43,029
get to hang out at some point I tried to

3083
02:30:46,140 --> 02:30:45,160
find him in Michigan on a road trip from

3084
02:30:47,940 --> 02:30:46,150
Canada but we did

3085
02:30:49,320 --> 02:30:47,950
get to we didn't get to hang out I miss

3086
02:30:51,511 --> 02:30:49,330
them by like an hour and a half a road

3087
02:30:54,930 --> 02:30:51,521
trip thank you I can't wait brother

3088
02:30:57,841 --> 02:30:54,940
thank you thank you so much clay now go

3089
02:30:59,371 --> 02:30:57,851
shred for a while yeah thanks Jimmy

3090
02:31:02,520 --> 02:30:59,381
loved to be here man I'll talk to you

3091
02:31:04,291 --> 02:31:02,530
man great conversation and now I've got

3092
02:31:05,820 --> 02:31:04,301
to take a quick break let's do that

3093
02:31:08,041 --> 02:31:05,830
our guests side is Michael Lee he'll

3094
02:31:11,400 --> 02:31:08,051
we've got everybody here from the AR

3095
02:31:13,280 --> 02:31:11,410
Borden beta team and coming up next who

3096
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do we have next Michael Oh Joshua

3097
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Joshua's up next Michael you stay right

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there I know right it's a great show

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it's not a lifestyle we chose we were

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born this way

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KCRA radio.com this is kjc our Jimmy

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[Music]

3185
02:36:19,229 --> 02:36:15,329
what an amazing show tonight I have

3186
02:36:21,029 --> 02:36:19,239
learned so much Michael Lee Hillman

3187
02:36:24,349 --> 02:36:21,039
Michael you bring it my brother you

3188
02:36:26,630 --> 02:36:24,359
really do I thank you for having us I

3189
02:36:30,539 --> 02:36:26,640
know tis the season

3190
02:36:32,460 --> 02:36:30,549
man man man man it's just uh and we even

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02:36:36,059 --> 02:36:32,470
got some guitar talk into as well but

3192
02:36:37,590 --> 02:36:36,069
what a fascinating show and I know that

3193
02:36:40,649 --> 02:36:37,600
the fader knots and the audience out

3194
02:36:43,079 --> 02:36:40,659
there is putting this all together and

3195
02:36:47,130 --> 02:36:43,089
it this is and this is what's most

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02:36:50,069 --> 02:36:47,140
important Michael is the the audience

3197
02:36:53,849 --> 02:36:50,079
gets together on this show each night in

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02:36:56,399 --> 02:36:53,859
mass for a presentation like we're doing

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02:36:59,399 --> 02:36:56,409
tonight and it's a rare thing out there

3200
02:37:03,059 --> 02:36:59,409
there are a lot of choices that that can

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02:37:05,880 --> 02:37:03,069
be made for shows like this but then but

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02:37:09,059 --> 02:37:05,890
they gather here and and wow what a show

3203
02:37:14,599 --> 02:37:09,069
just what a show and now now let's bring

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02:37:17,999 --> 02:37:14,609
on Joshua Joshua good evening and Josh

3205
02:37:22,380 --> 02:37:18,009
Michael we got a rule what's your last

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02:37:25,439 --> 02:37:22,390
name okay Joshua Kent there you go okay

3207
02:37:28,079 --> 02:37:25,449
Jesse what welcome to the show

3208
02:37:30,569 --> 02:37:28,089
we've got this is the last segment and

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02:37:33,779 --> 02:37:30,579
we've got you know a hard ending to the

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02:37:37,319 --> 02:37:33,789
show tonight in about 23 minutes so

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02:37:40,380 --> 02:37:37,329
let's get in as much as we can let's

3212
02:37:43,559 --> 02:37:40,390
let's go straight there what is what was

3213
02:37:47,519 --> 02:37:43,569
or is your function in the beta team

3214
02:37:50,699 --> 02:37:47,529
with Al Borden um like everyone else I

3215
02:37:52,260 --> 02:37:50,709
was a team member um before that I had

3216
02:37:55,460 --> 02:37:52,270
kind of gone in touch with him because I

3217
02:37:57,300 --> 02:37:55,470
was interested in the life physics and

3218
02:38:00,300 --> 02:37:57,310
some of the things that they were

3219
02:38:02,909 --> 02:38:00,310
talking about like manifestation remote

3220
02:38:04,050 --> 02:38:02,919
viewing that kind of thing and I've

3221
02:38:06,630 --> 02:38:04,060
gotten in contact with him a couple

3222
02:38:09,029 --> 02:38:06,640
years prior to and I didn't know at the

3223
02:38:10,289 --> 02:38:09,039
time anything about the group of what

3224
02:38:13,710 --> 02:38:10,299
they were doing but I did have an

3225
02:38:16,139 --> 02:38:13,720
intuitive sense about what was going on

3226
02:38:19,380 --> 02:38:16,149
and even who he was so to be honest I

3227
02:38:22,949 --> 02:38:19,390
was a little paranoid but I was also I

3228
02:38:24,929 --> 02:38:22,959
felt like intrigued and that this is

3229
02:38:27,779 --> 02:38:24,939
something somewhere I had to go

3230
02:38:29,849 --> 02:38:27,789
and so for a while I was kind of you

3231
02:38:31,619 --> 02:38:29,859
know trying to practice more like

3232
02:38:32,999 --> 02:38:31,629
manifestation remote-viewing things like

3233
02:38:35,669 --> 02:38:33,009
that at the time and I had some pretty

3234
02:38:37,139 --> 02:38:35,679
interesting experiences that the time

3235
02:38:39,029 --> 02:38:37,149
kind of frightened me in the sense that

3236
02:38:40,799 --> 02:38:39,039
like you know this wasn't something you

3237
02:38:43,889 --> 02:38:40,809
take necessarily lightly you know you

3238
02:38:47,010 --> 02:38:43,899
really have to kind of be responsible

3239
02:38:48,059 --> 02:38:47,020
when you do it and take it gradual so

3240
02:38:50,389 --> 02:38:48,069
yeah I kind of talked to him for a while

3241
02:38:52,289 --> 02:38:50,399
and then I didn't he told me to get up

3242
02:38:54,839 --> 02:38:52,299
download one of his books by the way

3243
02:38:58,919 --> 02:38:54,849
there at Lulu lucam I believe a our

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02:39:01,439 --> 02:38:58,929
board has some of his books on there one

3245
02:39:04,289 --> 02:39:01,449
of them is called something from nothing

3246
02:39:06,659 --> 02:39:04,299
which is all about the physics so you

3247
02:39:09,389 --> 02:39:06,669
know reality a general how it manifests

3248
02:39:11,849 --> 02:39:09,399
but also how how we do that every single

3249
02:39:14,339 --> 02:39:11,859
day of our lives and that it's a skill

3250
02:39:17,549 --> 02:39:14,349
that can also be honed and in a sense

3251
02:39:19,889 --> 02:39:17,559
trained so that was kind of my initial

3252
02:39:23,639 --> 02:39:19,899
interest and from then went on kind of

3253
02:39:26,249 --> 02:39:23,649
like clay I also you know participated

3254
02:39:28,859 --> 02:39:26,259
in the forum and got to talk to a lot of

3255
02:39:30,899 --> 02:39:28,869
the other like-minded people that were

3256
02:39:33,689 --> 02:39:30,909
on a similar Trek of information and

3257
02:39:35,159 --> 02:39:33,699
knowledge and we all became kind of

3258
02:39:38,159 --> 02:39:35,169
close in the sense that we shared and

3259
02:39:39,629 --> 02:39:38,169
exchanged information and ideas and it

3260
02:39:43,289 --> 02:39:39,639
was then after I started emailing him a

3261
02:39:44,789 --> 02:39:43,299
little bit more and she know we just got

3262
02:39:47,609 --> 02:39:44,799
closer and then it was towards the beta

3263
02:39:51,119 --> 02:39:47,619
that I would say we got all of us got a

3264
02:39:52,319 --> 02:39:51,129
lot closer I just felt kind of like you

3265
02:39:54,899 --> 02:39:52,329
were just like you've met these people

3266
02:39:57,569 --> 02:39:54,909
before and it was very natural it was a

3267
02:39:59,309 --> 02:39:57,579
very natural kind of resonance so yeah

3268
02:40:02,819 --> 02:39:59,319
that's kind of where it came in I've

3269
02:40:04,049 --> 02:40:02,829
always been spiritual also scientific

3270
02:40:05,969 --> 02:40:04,059
minded I've always been interested in

3271
02:40:10,109 --> 02:40:05,979
where science and you know mysticism

3272
02:40:11,909 --> 02:40:10,119
meet that so tarik stuff you know equal

3273
02:40:13,289 --> 02:40:11,919
unquote secret knowledge in my opinion

3274
02:40:16,319 --> 02:40:13,299
and he's you know these are things

3275
02:40:18,359 --> 02:40:16,329
people can use their natural to us and

3276
02:40:21,929 --> 02:40:18,369
that we all it's our inheritance that we

3277
02:40:23,429 --> 02:40:21,939
all should be able to do these things so

3278
02:40:25,229 --> 02:40:23,439
yeah and a lot of that you know also the

3279
02:40:27,029 --> 02:40:25,239
other side the conspiracy side and yes

3280
02:40:28,349 --> 02:40:27,039
ETS have always been an interest of mine

3281
02:40:28,949 --> 02:40:28,359
as well I had a lot of experiences that

3282
02:40:31,829 --> 02:40:28,959
are weird

3283
02:40:33,539 --> 02:40:31,839
arranged from non-local interdimensional

3284
02:40:35,579 --> 02:40:33,549
some physical and there's a lot of

3285
02:40:38,550 --> 02:40:35,589
memory jogging a lot of things I still

3286
02:40:41,880 --> 02:40:38,560
don't remember know exactly

3287
02:40:43,979 --> 02:40:41,890
want to pinpoint that but I feel that

3288
02:40:47,880 --> 02:40:43,989
they are there so yeah that's kind of

3289
02:40:49,469 --> 02:40:47,890
how it all began and then you get you

3290
02:40:55,080 --> 02:40:49,479
know the the beta team get to put

3291
02:40:58,410 --> 02:40:55,090
together a R is leading things when at

3292
02:41:01,469 --> 02:40:58,420
what point did they did a our choose to

3293
02:41:04,740 --> 02:41:01,479
expose you what the intention of this

3294
02:41:07,859 --> 02:41:04,750
team what the goals were what happened

3295
02:41:09,840 --> 02:41:07,869
um I would say in a meeting in a

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02:41:11,099 --> 02:41:09,850
conference and you know he's very

3297
02:41:12,660 --> 02:41:11,109
intelligent person he knows what he's

3298
02:41:14,519 --> 02:41:12,670
doing he's been doing things like that

3299
02:41:18,269 --> 02:41:14,529
for a while and so he's very careful

3300
02:41:20,790 --> 02:41:18,279
also in now how he kind of you know

3301
02:41:22,649 --> 02:41:20,800
talked to us about all this and um you

3302
02:41:24,569 --> 02:41:22,659
know it's it's also for everyone's

3303
02:41:26,519 --> 02:41:24,579
safety as well as you know an

3304
02:41:28,469 --> 02:41:26,529
acclamation and see how much we get

3305
02:41:29,910 --> 02:41:28,479
intuitively as well which we all did we

3306
02:41:32,370 --> 02:41:29,920
all kind of experienced very similar

3307
02:41:35,250 --> 02:41:32,380
things also very different things and it

3308
02:41:38,010 --> 02:41:35,260
kind of we all kind of just resonated um

3309
02:41:42,479 --> 02:41:38,020
so yeah I would say when we all kind of

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02:41:45,840 --> 02:41:42,489
got into a Skype meeting and began to

3311
02:41:47,429 --> 02:41:45,850
talk about things came very natural and

3312
02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:47,439
there were other things too prior to

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that he seemed concerned with something

3314
02:41:53,880 --> 02:41:52,630
that was going on a planetary level but

3315
02:41:56,729 --> 02:41:53,890
he didn't really say anything it was

3316
02:41:58,920 --> 02:41:56,739
kind of something talked about and it

3317
02:42:00,809 --> 02:41:58,930
wasn't until I reached out I felt like I

3318
02:42:03,240 --> 02:42:00,819
had to reach out it was really weird I

3319
02:42:05,250 --> 02:42:03,250
just felt kind of empty and like there

3320
02:42:06,929 --> 02:42:05,260
was something I was missing there's

3321
02:42:07,979 --> 02:42:06,939
something that I wasn't doing that I

3322
02:42:09,840 --> 02:42:07,989
needed to be doing but I didn't know

3323
02:42:11,849 --> 02:42:09,850
what it was it's kind of like really

3324
02:42:14,189 --> 02:42:11,859
empty unfulfilled something you know and

3325
02:42:16,410 --> 02:42:14,199
so I finally got in contact with him and

3326
02:42:18,809 --> 02:42:16,420
I asked him how I could help and that's

3327
02:42:21,990 --> 02:42:18,819
when he just kind of shot me right in

3328
02:42:24,269 --> 02:42:22,000
there um and I honestly don't think I

3329
02:42:27,000 --> 02:42:24,279
felt it you know it seems like every all

3330
02:42:28,649 --> 02:42:27,010
that is crazy you know and really hard

3331
02:42:30,630 --> 02:42:28,659
to believe and it is but at the same

3332
02:42:32,760 --> 02:42:30,640
time internally on a spiritual level I

3333
02:42:35,429 --> 02:42:32,770
felt like this is just where I had to be

3334
02:42:37,340 --> 02:42:35,439
at the time so it almost what kind of

3335
02:42:39,870 --> 02:42:37,350
came naturally or it just felt natural

3336
02:42:42,179 --> 02:42:39,880
meaning you know everyone talking to

3337
02:42:43,649 --> 02:42:42,189
Michael oh and before that I had read

3338
02:42:45,750 --> 02:42:43,659
some of the things Michael had said and

3339
02:42:47,550 --> 02:42:45,760
I felt like that was a trek that I had

3340
02:42:49,319 --> 02:42:47,560
to follow as well I was beating some

3341
02:42:50,519 --> 02:42:49,329
stuff on the internet so all of a sudden

3342
02:42:51,910 --> 02:42:50,529
I'm just shot into a team and my

3343
02:42:53,380 --> 02:42:51,920
partner's Michael

3344
02:42:55,990 --> 02:42:53,390
I'm just like okay this is not a

3345
02:42:59,590 --> 02:42:56,000
coincidence come on did you have a title

3346
02:43:01,690 --> 02:42:59,600
did they give you one uh no I mean

3347
02:43:03,250 --> 02:43:01,700
that's sometimes a some of us like we if

3348
02:43:05,350 --> 02:43:03,260
you want to get like Research Associates

3349
02:43:06,490 --> 02:43:05,360
or you know no Civ investigators

3350
02:43:09,100 --> 02:43:06,500
different people we're doing different

3351
02:43:11,830 --> 02:43:09,110
things sometimes you know being trained

3352
02:43:14,530 --> 02:43:11,840
or also training themselves really cuz

3353
02:43:17,170 --> 02:43:14,540
that's really a are always wanted to

3354
02:43:18,310 --> 02:43:17,180
push like people kind of you know

3355
02:43:19,480 --> 02:43:18,320
earning their abilities and their

3356
02:43:22,179 --> 02:43:19,490
knowledge and that is how we do it

3357
02:43:24,010 --> 02:43:22,189
anyways there's really no other way so

3358
02:43:26,410 --> 02:43:24,020
yeah it was more like people we're

3359
02:43:27,850 --> 02:43:26,420
associates and then they depending on

3360
02:43:28,900 --> 02:43:27,860
what their proclivities were and what

3361
02:43:31,929 --> 02:43:28,910
they were good at they would have

3362
02:43:34,480 --> 02:43:31,939
different things but later on after this

3363
02:43:35,380 --> 02:43:34,490
you know kind of kept in contact and

3364
02:43:37,450 --> 02:43:35,390
stuff and there's a lot of things he

3365
02:43:39,790 --> 02:43:37,460
wanted to do which I'll discuss a little

3366
02:43:41,500 --> 02:43:39,800
bit later um but he kind of wanted me to

3367
02:43:42,940 --> 02:43:41,510
edit some of his stuff kind of be an

3368
02:43:45,850 --> 02:43:42,950
editor for some of the things that he

3369
02:43:47,500 --> 02:43:45,860
wanted to do for example he wanted to

3370
02:43:49,810 --> 02:43:47,510
get some of the medicine if you will

3371
02:43:52,060 --> 02:43:49,820
that they were doing out there and not

3372
02:43:54,490 --> 02:43:52,070
just necessary on the internet but

3373
02:43:55,990 --> 02:43:54,500
different you know medical institutions

3374
02:43:57,040 --> 02:43:56,000
and you know maybe even scientist I'm

3375
02:43:59,980 --> 02:43:57,050
not entirely sure because it never

3376
02:44:02,500 --> 02:43:59,990
happened but yeah you know he kind of

3377
02:44:04,150 --> 02:44:02,510
tested me in that sense too and asked me

3378
02:44:06,040 --> 02:44:04,160
to write some things and also edit some

3379
02:44:08,290 --> 02:44:06,050
things but it's really exciting it was

3380
02:44:10,150 --> 02:44:08,300
really exciting because the kind of

3381
02:44:12,670 --> 02:44:10,160
physics that they were doing biophysics

3382
02:44:13,900 --> 02:44:12,680
was all about you know what she and all

3383
02:44:16,210 --> 02:44:13,910
these things really are in the

3384
02:44:18,880 --> 02:44:16,220
scientific sense is pretty complex stuff

3385
02:44:20,650 --> 02:44:18,890
actually and what it means to medicine

3386
02:44:24,190 --> 02:44:20,660
and what it means to our ability to

3387
02:44:26,679 --> 02:44:24,200
regenerate and order itself even some

3388
02:44:28,929 --> 02:44:26,689
even taking the cells back in time so

3389
02:44:30,969 --> 02:44:28,939
reverse maladies reverse you know all

3390
02:44:32,800 --> 02:44:30,979
these different things Kundalini and put

3391
02:44:34,150 --> 02:44:32,810
them in a scientific format and then you

3392
02:44:36,190 --> 02:44:34,160
know what the stuff is and how it works

3393
02:44:37,540 --> 02:44:36,200
so anyways that is a title it was kind

3394
02:44:39,670 --> 02:44:37,550
of like an editor kind of thing research

3395
02:44:41,410 --> 02:44:39,680
associate but we didn't really use that

3396
02:44:43,540 --> 02:44:41,420
many titles at the time it was more just

3397
02:44:48,360 --> 02:44:43,550
like all of us doing we had to do at a

3398
02:44:53,790 --> 02:44:48,370
time did you wonder about who was

3399
02:44:56,590 --> 02:44:53,800
guiding AR and that there may be other

3400
02:44:58,600 --> 02:44:56,600
government institutions involved that

3401
02:45:02,530 --> 02:44:58,610
we're gonna take this data and use it

3402
02:45:04,270 --> 02:45:02,540
for something else I would say I'm not

3403
02:45:05,650 --> 02:45:04,280
sure about the data and all that but

3404
02:45:07,660 --> 02:45:05,660
prior to

3405
02:45:09,130 --> 02:45:07,670
talking to him I always I don't know I

3406
02:45:12,400 --> 02:45:09,140
just had an intuition that he's you know

3407
02:45:14,050 --> 02:45:12,410
just deeply involved and you know very I

3408
02:45:15,280 --> 02:45:14,060
I don't know and I'm my paranoia from

3409
02:45:18,280 --> 02:45:15,290
that came just because I've had a lot of

3410
02:45:20,020 --> 02:45:18,290
experiences in the past that I couldn't

3411
02:45:21,880 --> 02:45:20,030
explain and someone who felt like you

3412
02:45:22,900 --> 02:45:21,890
know it could have been you know

3413
02:45:24,490 --> 02:45:22,910
something to do with monitoring or

3414
02:45:26,590 --> 02:45:24,500
government or you know certain kind of

3415
02:45:28,630 --> 02:45:26,600
electromagnetic technologies and also

3416
02:45:31,360 --> 02:45:28,640
with entities that weren't always very

3417
02:45:33,130 --> 02:45:31,370
nice so I was kind of paranoid um but

3418
02:45:34,900 --> 02:45:33,140
when I when I talked to him and when we

3419
02:45:36,520 --> 02:45:34,910
started communicating there was a lot of

3420
02:45:40,230 --> 02:45:36,530
there's a lot of light you know he's

3421
02:45:42,880 --> 02:45:40,240
very you know he's very intense very

3422
02:45:44,469 --> 02:45:42,890
focused had a very powerful wind tension

3423
02:45:46,600 --> 02:45:44,479
energy which is another thing we should

3424
02:45:48,910 --> 02:45:46,610
get into some other times but he was

3425
02:45:52,120 --> 02:45:48,920
also very relaxed and very loving and

3426
02:45:55,510 --> 02:45:52,130
humorous now in terms of any of that

3427
02:45:57,160 --> 02:45:55,520
guiding going on I mean it's if if it is

3428
02:45:58,960 --> 02:45:57,170
what you know what we're all saying it

3429
02:46:00,460 --> 02:45:58,970
is then yeah I mean that's probably

3430
02:46:02,590 --> 02:46:00,470
inevitable that there was a lot more

3431
02:46:04,240 --> 02:46:02,600
involvement from not just necessarily

3432
02:46:05,320 --> 02:46:04,250
government or anything like that but I'm

3433
02:46:08,560 --> 02:46:05,330
talking about you know on a higher level

3434
02:46:11,110 --> 02:46:08,570
even other entities that were also

3435
02:46:13,480 --> 02:46:11,120
organized involved and you know guiding

3436
02:46:15,750 --> 02:46:13,490
and watching and seeing how this all

3437
02:46:18,639 --> 02:46:15,760
plays out I think a lot of it was also

3438
02:46:21,730 --> 02:46:18,649
an experiment to see what all of us are

3439
02:46:22,860 --> 02:46:21,740
capable of and is in terms of in my

3440
02:46:25,450 --> 02:46:22,870
opinion from my perspective

3441
02:46:28,000 --> 02:46:25,460
extraterrestrials a lot of them use what

3442
02:46:30,670 --> 02:46:28,010
they call thought technology and it's

3443
02:46:33,520 --> 02:46:30,680
the ability to use intention to cascade

3444
02:46:35,080 --> 02:46:33,530
effects into reality to fix issues or

3445
02:46:37,240 --> 02:46:35,090
anything it could be a planetary problem

3446
02:46:39,429 --> 02:46:37,250
it could be something on a local level

3447
02:46:42,820 --> 02:46:39,439
and I think this is something they are

3448
02:46:45,340 --> 02:46:42,830
wanted kind of out there or kind of to

3449
02:46:48,219 --> 02:46:45,350
push forward you talked about the three

3450
02:46:50,410 --> 02:46:48,229
percent protocol and how if we knew how

3451
02:46:53,290 --> 02:46:50,420
to use you know our own intentions their

3452
02:46:56,469 --> 02:46:53,300
own minds own energies essentially we

3453
02:46:59,050 --> 02:46:56,479
could affect any change we wanted and I

3454
02:47:00,520 --> 02:46:59,060
think some of that but he wanted to get

3455
02:47:02,230 --> 02:47:00,530
the technical knowledge out as well as

3456
02:47:03,670 --> 02:47:02,240
some of the practical stuff so anyway

3457
02:47:05,860 --> 02:47:03,680
sorry I kind of deviated from your

3458
02:47:08,200 --> 02:47:05,870
question so I think there was more going

3459
02:47:12,190 --> 02:47:08,210
on absolutely do I know exactly what

3460
02:47:14,860 --> 02:47:12,200
that was I I could say no but one of my

3461
02:47:17,320 --> 02:47:14,870
gifts if I having is just spontaneously

3462
02:47:18,670 --> 02:47:17,330
kind of figuring things out and so on

3463
02:47:19,450 --> 02:47:18,680
that level there's all you know kind of

3464
02:47:23,320 --> 02:47:19,460
a

3465
02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:23,330
keep going with the questions I know

3466
02:47:28,840 --> 02:47:25,520
what I want to know I'm gonna know

3467
02:47:31,540 --> 02:47:28,850
Joshua what did you figure out what Wow

3468
02:47:33,610 --> 02:47:31,550
I would say pretty much what's already

3469
02:47:36,700 --> 02:47:33,620
been said here by all the different

3470
02:47:38,500 --> 02:47:36,710
guests they therefore that definitely

3471
02:47:41,350 --> 02:47:38,510
was more going on with the whole you

3472
02:47:42,580 --> 02:47:41,360
know Anunnaki thing which by the way in

3473
02:47:43,990 --> 02:47:42,590
the books he put out and some of the

3474
02:47:46,060 --> 02:47:44,000
information that Michaels put out now

3475
02:47:51,130 --> 02:47:46,070
they call some of the talk for them as

3476
02:47:53,290 --> 02:47:51,140
Sams which is short for Xiaomi and the

3477
02:47:55,570 --> 02:47:53,300
name of the planet is also along those

3478
02:47:57,400 --> 02:47:55,580
lines and thinks it's the same so that's

3479
02:48:01,270 --> 02:47:57,410
why they call them that the Nibiru is

3480
02:48:03,010 --> 02:48:01,280
more of a Sitchin interpretation of what

3481
02:48:06,550 --> 02:48:03,020
it is but that's not the what they call

3482
02:48:08,170 --> 02:48:06,560
it so anyway so yeah they definitely

3483
02:48:09,910 --> 02:48:08,180
thought there's a lot more that but also

3484
02:48:12,190 --> 02:48:09,920
not just them I think there were a lot

3485
02:48:16,090 --> 02:48:12,200
more involved in my personal opinion

3486
02:48:17,790 --> 02:48:16,100
what I felt even some that probably

3487
02:48:20,800 --> 02:48:17,800
didn't even want to be there I think

3488
02:48:24,190 --> 02:48:20,810
assisted in that transition in the

3489
02:48:28,660 --> 02:48:24,200
project and if you will in the intention

3490
02:48:31,540 --> 02:48:28,670
a group collective intention and some of

3491
02:48:33,130 --> 02:48:31,550
them were also not physical they were

3492
02:48:35,680 --> 02:48:33,140
and he said this too they were on too

3493
02:48:37,480 --> 02:48:35,690
energetic they were existing on a higher

3494
02:48:39,969 --> 02:48:37,490
plane of existence I guess is why I go

3495
02:48:42,520 --> 02:48:39,979
to New Age terms or in a higher level

3496
02:48:44,469 --> 02:48:42,530
manifestation as he would say or us

3497
02:48:47,380 --> 02:48:44,479
higher space-time ratio these are beings

3498
02:48:49,270 --> 02:48:47,390
who evolved beyond bodies and were more

3499
02:48:51,610 --> 02:48:49,280
of collective just alts of consciousness

3500
02:48:52,630 --> 02:48:51,620
but could project and materialize body

3501
02:48:53,890 --> 02:48:52,640
well the defense you know there were

3502
02:48:56,140 --> 02:48:53,900
different kinds I'm kids some that

3503
02:48:59,200 --> 02:48:56,150
couldn't um but they were also very

3504
02:49:01,900 --> 02:48:59,210
involved and I believe this is just my

3505
02:49:05,380 --> 02:49:01,910
personal perspective that some of them

3506
02:49:06,630 --> 02:49:05,390
were from Lyra which is you know if

3507
02:49:10,120 --> 02:49:06,640
you've read the literature out there

3508
02:49:13,740 --> 02:49:10,130
very connected humans in general please

3509
02:49:17,980 --> 02:49:13,750
and you know serious all the way down

3510
02:49:19,870 --> 02:49:17,990
the the back and time issue to in the

3511
02:49:24,850 --> 02:49:19,880
pharmaceutical side of things and

3512
02:49:26,620 --> 02:49:24,860
healing was that ever achieved um well

3513
02:49:28,090 --> 02:49:26,630
what you mean by us or just just by

3514
02:49:30,340 --> 02:49:28,100
different people in general like a

3515
02:49:31,940 --> 02:49:30,350
different organizations no bye-bye you

3516
02:49:34,570 --> 02:49:31,950
guys I mean was that

3517
02:49:37,850 --> 02:49:34,580
something that you ended up documenting

3518
02:49:40,490 --> 02:49:37,860
well the the thing is is what what AR

3519
02:49:43,341 --> 02:49:40,500
wanted to I think part of what he wanted

3520
02:49:47,180 --> 02:49:43,351
to do is for people to create their own

3521
02:49:49,190 --> 02:49:47,190
no Civ protocols to generate the effect

3522
02:49:51,620 --> 02:49:49,200
within themselves without the need for

3523
02:49:53,841 --> 02:49:51,630
an external technology sure some of it

3524
02:49:55,100 --> 02:49:53,851
was you know here's this tactical stuff

3525
02:49:56,511 --> 02:49:55,110
here's a science here's why it's

3526
02:49:59,511 --> 02:49:56,521
possible when all these different things

3527
02:50:00,680 --> 02:49:59,521
and then you know here are you know what

3528
02:50:02,560 --> 02:50:00,690
you can do for example with remote

3529
02:50:05,390 --> 02:50:02,570
viewing or extension neuro sensing and

3530
02:50:07,881 --> 02:50:05,400
he also talked about the ability to talk

3531
02:50:10,160 --> 02:50:07,891
to cells talking to DNA which was I

3532
02:50:11,600 --> 02:50:10,170
think one of the great contributions in

3533
02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:11,610
the public domain and I that sounds

3534
02:50:16,370 --> 02:50:14,010
silly but you know the physically

3535
02:50:18,230 --> 02:50:16,380
talking but also on a know civil when

3536
02:50:19,640 --> 02:50:18,240
you get to a point you know where you're

3537
02:50:22,070 --> 02:50:19,650
able to meditate in a certain way and

3538
02:50:23,570 --> 02:50:22,080
perhaps even extend your consciousness

3539
02:50:25,671 --> 02:50:23,580
you can instead of extend your

3540
02:50:27,620 --> 02:50:25,681
consciousness to a target let's say you

3541
02:50:29,360 --> 02:50:27,630
know some random guy somewhere the

3542
02:50:30,950 --> 02:50:29,370
Eiffel Tower you could do it with your

3543
02:50:33,381 --> 02:50:30,960
cells and you could get information

3544
02:50:36,080 --> 02:50:33,391
about your cells and what was going on

3545
02:50:37,970 --> 02:50:36,090
and you know a way to train that which

3546
02:50:41,750 --> 02:50:37,980
he called the enteric brain which is the

3547
02:50:43,790 --> 02:50:41,760
fourth mind you say um and to do that it

3548
02:50:47,091 --> 02:50:43,800
did involve kind of moving the typical

3549
02:50:50,390 --> 02:50:47,101
program linear thought constructs and

3550
02:50:53,030 --> 02:50:50,400
sensing that we use and moving back into

3551
02:50:55,310 --> 02:50:53,040
a kind of knowingness but the difference

3552
02:50:58,280 --> 02:50:55,320
is is with that knowingness was actually

3553
02:51:00,080 --> 02:50:58,290
real raw data and Intel that could

3554
02:51:02,570 --> 02:51:00,090
actually be very complex but we had to

3555
02:51:04,310 --> 02:51:02,580
learn how to reconnect that how to bring

3556
02:51:06,320 --> 02:51:04,320
that out and he also said that was a

3557
02:51:07,700 --> 02:51:06,330
part of intelligence acceleration which

3558
02:51:09,980 --> 02:51:07,710
is another reason why I got interested

3559
02:51:11,421 --> 02:51:09,990
in his work because they say who doesn't

3560
02:51:14,120 --> 02:51:11,431
want to be more intelligent who doesn't

3561
02:51:16,280 --> 02:51:14,130
want to be you know have that edge if

3562
02:51:17,841 --> 02:51:16,290
you want but for him it was more like

3563
02:51:19,400 --> 02:51:17,851
functioning on all Pistons it was not

3564
02:51:21,591 --> 02:51:19,410
just your intellectual brain it was your

3565
02:51:23,421 --> 02:51:21,601
enteric brain and he actually told me a

3566
02:51:25,850 --> 02:51:23,431
couple times in regards to skills like

3567
02:51:27,680 --> 02:51:25,860
I'm at the station were mo viewing

3568
02:51:28,700 --> 02:51:27,690
almost entirely in the beginning process

3569
02:51:30,381 --> 02:51:28,710
at least you had to move your

3570
02:51:32,660 --> 02:51:30,391
intellectual mind out of the way and

3571
02:51:35,301 --> 02:51:32,670
he'd say enteric mine you know that's

3572
02:51:37,280 --> 02:51:35,311
that's where a lot of this godlike

3573
02:51:39,830 --> 02:51:37,290
ability is I mean I don't mean ever say

3574
02:51:41,750 --> 02:51:39,840
in a religious context um but it's a

3575
02:51:43,940 --> 02:51:41,760
it's a processing power of the cells a

3576
02:51:45,620 --> 02:51:43,950
DNA the gut the heart all those things

3577
02:51:47,510 --> 02:51:45,630
is incredible and there's a

3578
02:51:49,160 --> 02:51:47,520
physics and science to all that and if

3579
02:51:51,380 --> 02:51:49,170
we knew that we might take that more

3580
02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:51,390
seriously seriously the mainstream and

3581
02:51:56,210 --> 02:51:53,010
we look at it more unless that's

3582
02:51:59,360 --> 02:51:56,220
metaphysical you know jargon do you

3583
02:52:03,770 --> 02:51:59,370
think with this communication with the

3584
02:52:05,719 --> 02:52:03,780
Anunnaki and the the sharing of

3585
02:52:07,730 --> 02:52:05,729
information certainly these meetings and

3586
02:52:12,070 --> 02:52:07,740
the conferences and and the link and

3587
02:52:14,929 --> 02:52:12,080
linkage and with that and a ours

3588
02:52:17,960 --> 02:52:14,939
connection directly back to different

3589
02:52:19,910 --> 02:52:17,970
government organizations that it was

3590
02:52:23,660 --> 02:52:19,920
those organizations whether it was the

3591
02:52:27,560 --> 02:52:23,670
CIA or the NSA or the Navy or or the

3592
02:52:29,300 --> 02:52:27,570
Pentagon that that is actually what was

3593
02:52:30,980 --> 02:52:29,310
going on that AR was putting these

3594
02:52:33,800 --> 02:52:30,990
groups together to have the kind of

3595
02:52:35,389 --> 02:52:33,810
communication happen and then turn

3596
02:52:36,710 --> 02:52:35,399
around and share that information and

3597
02:52:40,370 --> 02:52:36,720
maybe even that's where some of the

3598
02:52:42,560 --> 02:52:40,380
funding even came from I mean I I don't

3599
02:52:45,350 --> 02:52:42,570
really know that much of that but it's

3600
02:52:48,679 --> 02:52:45,360
possible that you know any sort of

3601
02:52:50,179 --> 02:52:48,689
contractor might depending on you know

3602
02:52:52,580 --> 02:52:50,189
like not necessarily need to know but

3603
02:52:54,320 --> 02:52:52,590
the actual need of those contractors and

3604
02:52:56,990 --> 02:52:54,330
whoever's involved to know that

3605
02:52:58,969 --> 02:52:57,000
information you know yes or even or even

3606
02:53:00,469 --> 02:52:58,979
if there's some sort of oversight you

3607
02:53:03,170 --> 02:53:00,479
know those things I don't know but that

3608
02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:03,180
would not surprise me especially if it

3609
02:53:06,830 --> 02:53:05,010
was organized and it was something as

3610
02:53:09,230 --> 02:53:06,840
big as that you know there needs to be

3611
02:53:10,850 --> 02:53:09,240
some sort of information relayed to know

3612
02:53:13,160 --> 02:53:10,860
you know what was successful what wasn't

3613
02:53:14,719 --> 02:53:13,170
it you know how you know things when you

3614
02:53:16,850 --> 02:53:14,729
know what was the effect you know and of

3615
02:53:18,590 --> 02:53:16,860
course you know undoubtedly there if

3616
02:53:20,060 --> 02:53:18,600
they've you know there'd be groups you

3617
02:53:20,660 --> 02:53:20,070
know didn't wouldn't want any of that to

3618
02:53:23,120 --> 02:53:20,670
happen

3619
02:53:25,490 --> 02:53:23,130
um it would you know want to steer that

3620
02:53:28,070 --> 02:53:25,500
in their own way because as Michael

3621
02:53:29,990 --> 02:53:28,080
mentioned earlier perhaps surrogates on

3622
02:53:33,740 --> 02:53:30,000
the world who you know would rather have

3623
02:53:36,650 --> 02:53:33,750
a more tumultuous pass with more

3624
02:53:38,810 --> 02:53:36,660
disastrous effects as a form of perhaps

3625
02:53:40,400 --> 02:53:38,820
population control route or even other

3626
02:53:42,290 --> 02:53:40,410
things and that's one other thing I want

3627
02:53:45,620 --> 02:53:42,300
to say by the way that they are

3628
02:53:49,310 --> 02:53:45,630
frequently said that our populations

3629
02:53:51,440 --> 02:53:49,320
actually in the sense a gift and in the

3630
02:53:54,650 --> 02:53:51,450
way that every mind is an engine of

3631
02:53:56,090 --> 02:53:54,660
manifestation and if only 3% which was

3632
02:53:58,070 --> 02:53:56,100
we also he talked about they didn't

3633
02:53:59,420 --> 02:53:58,080
quite understand why but in their

3634
02:54:00,979 --> 02:53:59,430
studies and in theirs

3635
02:54:04,519 --> 02:54:00,989
experiments and also their

3636
02:54:06,320 --> 02:54:04,529
communications with others 3% of any

3637
02:54:08,389 --> 02:54:06,330
given population even it was a control

3638
02:54:10,160 --> 02:54:08,399
group of 10 people than those three

3639
02:54:12,620 --> 02:54:10,170
people or whatever would you know if

3640
02:54:14,360 --> 02:54:12,630
they if they manifested an ability and

3641
02:54:16,969 --> 02:54:14,370
they all were on the same page the other

3642
02:54:19,340 --> 02:54:16,979
ones were catch up quickly and so this

3643
02:54:21,170 --> 02:54:19,350
is also very important for I think in

3644
02:54:22,910 --> 02:54:21,180
terms of the mass consciousness and

3645
02:54:24,760 --> 02:54:22,920
everything that's going on today there's

3646
02:54:27,950 --> 02:54:24,770
a lot of division there's a lot of

3647
02:54:30,469 --> 02:54:27,960
office occasionally talk of awakening

3648
02:54:33,139 --> 02:54:30,479
but a lot of the awakening is more based

3649
02:54:34,729 --> 02:54:33,149
on getting information and then kind of

3650
02:54:36,110 --> 02:54:34,739
dividing ourselves and what's wrong or

3651
02:54:38,660 --> 02:54:36,120
what's right stead of developing our

3652
02:54:41,929 --> 02:54:38,670
ability to actually know simply explore

3653
02:54:44,179 --> 02:54:41,939
and to think at a higher level and to

3654
02:54:45,860 --> 02:54:44,189
interconnect and use our intentions

3655
02:54:47,059 --> 02:54:45,870
collectively which a lot of people do

3656
02:54:49,099 --> 02:54:47,069
there there's group meditations stuff

3657
02:54:51,130 --> 02:54:49,109
like that it's amazing um but that was

3658
02:54:53,900 --> 02:54:51,140
one thing I think he really wanted to

3659
02:54:55,219 --> 02:54:53,910
let people know about or at least push

3660
02:54:57,530 --> 02:54:55,229
forward is that we have these

3661
02:54:59,090 --> 02:54:57,540
capabilities and we use it on a daily

3662
02:55:01,939 --> 02:54:59,100
basis and it might be even that these

3663
02:55:03,469 --> 02:55:01,949
groups you know that are you know more

3664
02:55:07,189 --> 02:55:03,479
about division and conquering and things

3665
02:55:09,920 --> 02:55:07,199
like that use it against ourselves you

3666
02:55:11,630 --> 02:55:09,930
know we in a sense you know everything

3667
02:55:14,599 --> 02:55:11,640
from the media the political to economic

3668
02:55:17,030 --> 02:55:14,609
will kind of you know told what is the

3669
02:55:19,340 --> 02:55:17,040
status quo and what's not and we meant

3670
02:55:22,880 --> 02:55:19,350
efest a reality that's conducive to

3671
02:55:24,469 --> 02:55:22,890
those more than to ourselves and they

3672
02:55:26,599 --> 02:55:24,479
taking the power back I think starts

3673
02:55:29,389 --> 02:55:26,609
like everyone says with ourselves

3674
02:55:31,729 --> 02:55:29,399
and we have these capabilities all of us

3675
02:55:33,979 --> 02:55:31,739
and he would call that manifest produce

3676
02:55:36,849 --> 02:55:33,989
observe because observer ship is a part

3677
02:55:40,070 --> 02:55:36,859
of it and so is intention Joshua

3678
02:55:42,050 --> 02:55:40,080
fascinating man and just like clay I've

3679
02:55:44,540 --> 02:55:42,060
got to get you back on the show and yeah

3680
02:55:47,200 --> 02:55:44,550
and lilius let's just you know take the

3681
02:55:50,420 --> 02:55:47,210
time you know a 20-minute segment

3682
02:55:52,610 --> 02:55:50,430
doesn't do any of this justice and just

3683
02:55:55,160 --> 02:55:52,620
an amazing conversation and I want to

3684
02:55:57,740 --> 02:55:55,170
thank you again so taking the time

3685
02:56:01,639 --> 02:55:57,750
tonight unbelievable thank you so much

3686
02:56:05,030 --> 02:56:01,649
Joshua say good night to Michael he's

3687
02:56:07,219 --> 02:56:05,040
been here the whole time yeah I just

3688
02:56:09,110 --> 02:56:07,229
want to say a are told me personally he

3689
02:56:11,960 --> 02:56:09,120
said the biggest secret kept from

3690
02:56:12,979 --> 02:56:11,970
mankind is the 3 percent rule it doesn't

3691
02:56:16,429 --> 02:56:12,989
take you

3692
02:56:19,189 --> 02:56:16,439
society wants to make us think that how

3693
02:56:21,469 --> 02:56:19,199
can we change the system the machine you

3694
02:56:24,889 --> 02:56:21,479
know and that we have no power to change

3695
02:56:26,840 --> 02:56:24,899
it it doesn't take many of us operating

3696
02:56:30,260 --> 02:56:26,850
at a higher frequency before it spreads

3697
02:56:33,610 --> 02:56:30,270
throughout the mass and by the way he

3698
02:56:37,250 --> 02:56:33,620
told me that we're already past that 3%

3699
02:56:40,490 --> 02:56:37,260
now it's just a ripple effect of it's

3700
02:56:42,979 --> 02:56:40,500
spreading well let's hope I mean let's

3701
02:56:43,670 --> 02:56:42,989
hope let's hope Joshua thank you so much

3702
02:56:46,519 --> 02:56:43,680
my friend

3703
02:56:48,170 --> 02:56:46,529
and this brother we've got it we've got

3704
02:56:51,170 --> 02:56:48,180
to get you back on we'll do a full show

3705
02:56:55,460 --> 02:56:51,180
okay sure sounds good thank you so much

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Joshua you can everybody now as I've got

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one minute left Michael and I want to

3708
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thank you for putting all of this

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02:57:04,099 --> 02:57:01,859
together tonight it was it was way

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beyond everybody's expectations and

3711
02:57:08,870 --> 02:57:06,689
thank you for that my pleasure brother

3712
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let's let's part with this with

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everything that is going on right now

3714
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with the the chatter about you know

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secret Pentagon programs and and and

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02:57:27,710 --> 02:57:18,899
Bigelow

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and you know that yes I do I do so with

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everything that is going on right now

3719
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and your work with AR and and the beta

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team back then does all of this just

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help us complete and connect the dots in

3722
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that what T TSA has been reporting on

3723
02:57:47,809 --> 02:57:45,689
and what has been going out on the

3724
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Pentagon and and Bigelow and this

3725
02:57:52,550 --> 02:57:50,340
warehouse out in Las Vegas and your

3726
02:57:54,679 --> 02:57:52,560
experiences is this just connecting the

3727
02:57:56,000 --> 02:57:54,689
dots or are they not related I've only

3728
02:57:58,969 --> 02:57:56,010
got 15 seconds

3729
02:58:02,269 --> 02:57:58,979
they are absolutely totally related and

3730
02:58:04,250 --> 02:58:02,279
it's us entering they the Anunnaki

3731
02:58:06,920 --> 02:58:04,260
communicated it's all about the entry

3732
02:58:08,960 --> 02:58:06,930
into the Age of Aquarius and we're now

3733
02:58:11,540 --> 02:58:08,970
in it and mankind is about to enter the

3734
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next Golden Age and the Cabal and all

3735
02:58:18,950 --> 02:58:15,810
the this economic slavery system it's

3736
02:58:20,719 --> 02:58:18,960
about ready to crumble so will once it

3737
02:58:24,551 --> 02:58:20,729
crumbles here shortly we'll have another

3738
02:58:26,411 --> 02:58:24,561
show hey Michael really quick

3739
02:58:30,121 --> 02:58:26,421
where our where's the Stargate

3740
02:58:34,360 --> 02:58:30,131
conference Stargate to the cosmos is in

3741
02:58:37,331 --> 02:58:34,370
Albuquerque New Mexico and it starts the

3742
02:58:39,131 --> 02:58:37,341
25th through the 28th and I'll send you

3743
02:58:42,820 --> 02:58:39,141
some info on that really if you can make

3744
02:58:44,501 --> 02:58:42,830
it anyone please stop out if you can

3745
02:58:46,961 --> 02:58:44,511
make it it's going to be an amazing

3746
02:58:49,331 --> 02:58:46,971
event and Jimmy if you want to come I

3747
02:58:51,911 --> 02:58:49,341
mean it'd be freaking great I would love

3748
02:58:53,171 --> 02:58:51,921
to and with that I'm gonna put you on

3749
02:58:55,301 --> 02:58:53,181
hold stay right there Michael

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fade to black cigs ecute of producers

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02:59:26,381 --> 02:59:22,961
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02:59:28,720 --> 02:59:26,391
amazing conversations tonight with all

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of you spark a stone and copyrighted

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the game change of network Armijo jimmy

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church tomorrow night Fator night open

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lines all night long until then

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02:59:50,130 --> 02:59:46,671
everybody be saved

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go back Lee taffy